[dev1026] Changes to Claiming and Engaging Enemies

[Zenaku]

In the end its a personal choice as he said, play the game and grind it out or be that guy and get plvled to 50 it's your choice, if majority of the community wants to be that guy and get a ride to 50 then blame the community not the mechanics, because there should be options to help your friends as it does tighten the bonds of community..

It's not personal choice you still be force to do so. Everyone would have a pl and get max level faster then you. so you be force to do so, just to get to there level to do the event there doing because if you don't then you have to find other linkshell who doing the event your linkshell stop doing months ago due to new stuff.

This is why i request a level sync vs powerleveling

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/22665-dev1026-Please-reconsider-level-sync-Then-allowing-power-leveling?p=317260#post317260

[RathSkybreaker]

It's not personal choice you still be force to do so. Everyone would have a pl and get max level faster then you. so you be force to do so, just to get to there level to do the event there doing because if you don't then you have to find other linkshell who doing the event your linkshell stop doing months ago due to new stuff.

This is why i request a level sync vs powerleveling

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/22665-dev1026-Please-reconsider-level-sync-Then-allowing-power-leveling?p=317260#post317260

lecture me on how anyone is forced to be power leveled? LMFAO I don't get it.. I can solo to 50 if I please it may take longer but doing anything alone in any situation in real life takes longer then it would in a group.. My linkshell and many others I'm sure have been able to get a job high level in this new EXP enviroment.. if you want to be a noob and get power leveled to 50 then be my guest however don't try to spout that your forced to get plvled because on that my friend I call BS!

[Perrin_Aybarra]

In the end its a personal choice as he said, play the game and grind it out or be that guy and get plvled to 50 it's your choice, if majority of the community wants to be that guy and get a ride to 50 then blame the community not the mechanics, because there should be options to help your friends as it does tighten the bonds of community..

Because it gives players options? What is so hard to understand from what Yoshi-P is saying? PL will not become a standard way to level if the community doesn't enforce it.

In the end it's the players choice to decide if they want to take their time leveling up. Doing solo leves or grind parties and really take the time to learn their class as they level up OR be Power leveled up by a friend to catch up with them and learn their class when they are high level.

Or a mix of the 2, who cares really? YOU play the game like you want to, others will do the same. I know for myself I will not want anyone to PL me so I will not ask for it and if someone offers I will politely decline, that's all.

If someone wants me to PL them? If I have nothing better to do, sure why not? it's their choice how they want to level up and in the end they can play however they want as long as it doesn't forces me to do the same.

chill out and stop seeing the worse in things (that's for everyone)

[Murugan]

I powerleveled people/groups in FFXI. This is something that is possible to do in most grouping MMO's so there is really not a lot of proof that it kills grouping. They seem pretty intent on improving group play with the linking system, xp chains, and more party areas they have planned.

I don't see this as a big deal, you still have to have someone willing to powerlevel you which not everyone will have. There were still plenty of real groups in Yuhtunga/Yhoator Jungle despite all the people who powerleved people/groups there.

[Holland]

Thanks Bayohne for the official translation. It does not really matter it took some time to get translated.

I am looking forward to all the content being implemented, hope is near rather than far ^^;

Ill be glad to test out how this will work out.

[Alexis_Arteme]

The sad part is how much time they had to spend making this response to people. How much could have gotten done?

They're gonna do stuff that works, folks -- the game will only get easier and more streamlined as time progresses It will not get harder and/or more complicated. Just get used to it.

[Vesper]

Why the claiming system will be removed
We decided to remove the claiming system from FFXIV because we decided that claiming would become a troublesome spec in the future development of the game. When considering large scale PvE content involving multiple parties and PvP between large numbers of players, the spec that claiming occurs on a 1:1 basis becomes a nuisance. Also, instances will become more prevalent in future content. The concept of having to claim opponents to prevent being disturbed by other players becomes less and less relevant, so we decided that claiming is unnecessary.

Implementing future content that requires multiple groups has been done to death in plenty of other games while keeping a claim system that doesn't allow every person in the area the ability to freely attack a mob. Its only an issue of you have no faith in your dev team or your dev team is crap.

The claim system did not need a drastic adjustment. You could have implemented a Group Alliance, Warband, Teamup system where x amount of groups could be combined together into a a raiding party without a drastic claim change, all groups in the larger raiding party would be able to attack the same mobs.

[Seif]

Implementing future content that requires multiple groups has been done to death in plenty of other games while keeping a claim system that doesn't allow every person in the area the ability to freely attack a mob. Its only an issue of you have no faith in your dev team or your dev team is crap.

The claim system did not need a drastic adjustment. You could have implemented a Group Alliance, Warband, Teamup system where x amount of groups could be combined together into a a raiding party without a drastic claim change, all groups in the larger raiding party would be able to attack the same mobs.

Maybe it's just bad wording but that does indeed make it sound like "we're either lazy or incapable" of doing it the hard way.

Maybe you should only be able to help other players when their HP goes to yellow or red. Oh and on that topic color coded HP would be nice white-->yellow--> red numbers plz

[Murugan]

Implementing future content that requires multiple groups has been done to death in plenty of other games while keeping a claim system that doesn't allow every person in the area the ability to freely attack a mob. Its only an issue of you have no faith in your dev team or your dev team is crap.

The claim system did not need a drastic adjustment. You could have implemented a Group Alliance, Warband, Teamup system where x amount of groups could be combined together into a a raiding party without a drastic claim change, all groups in the larger raiding party would be able to attack the same mobs.

lol so you assume just because we have a claiming system that allows assistance (which is really pretty common for group MMO's) that it means we won't get alliance content? You people are overreacting, this is pretty standard stuff. Sure people will power level, but people were already doing that using guildleves, and people do that in just about every MMO.

Powerleveling never killed grouping, level sync/solo quest focus/no rewards for grouping has killed grouping, but every MMO I have played with a grouping focus you have been able to power level someone else also. Get over it, it won't become the norm or be "forced on you because everyone is doing it".

Have you ever power leveled someone? They aren't going to be getting 1k xp per kill so it is going to take about as long as a good efficient party. That's not a huge enough advantage for everyone and their mother to offer to power level random player X.

[Vesper]

lol so you assume just because we have a claiming system that allows assistance (which is really pretty common for group MMO's) that it means we won't get alliance content? You people are overreacting, this is pretty standard stuff. Sure people will power level, but people were already doing that using guildleves, and people do that in just about every MMO.

Powerleveling never killed grouping, level sync/solo quest focus/no rewards for grouping has killed grouping, but every MMO I have played with a grouping focus you have been able to power level someone else also. Get over it, it won't become the norm or be "forced on you because everyone is doing it".

Have you ever power leveled someone? They aren't going to be getting 1k xp per kill so it is going to take about as long as a good efficient party. That's not a huge enough advantage for everyone and their mother to offer to power level random player X.

Dude... your assumptions are way off. My comment has nothing to do with powerleveling, your assumption is I have something against power leveling. I power level in some games, some games I get power leveled. That never bothered me. PL to your hearts content, its fine IMO. All I am saying is the change itself, was more drastic than it needed to be, period. There are other ways that it could have been done, better ways. In the end it will likely have very little effect on me either way, I don't hate the new system coming in, I just think the explanation of WHY it was changed is lame when its been done so many times in ways that make more sense.