Prices are To hight (in relative terms)

[Airget]

The issue is you are only basing it on Triple Triad, there are also the variables of cactpot, GATEs, selling duplicates of triple triad cards, when you just base it on "winning" in triple triad then of course it's going to take a long time to obtain. However when you put the other variables into account it is possible for it to take less time and if you get lucky with cactpot even less time.

A quick tip, the Bahamut card sell for 600 when you no longer need it so if it's possible to get any other cards of that rarity range as duplicates you can also try it with them.As far as I know the price of other cards are 5, 10, 20 and 50. I'm not sure how much other cards go for but seeing that Bahamut does go for 600, winning a second Lightning Card might also impose an additional increase in MGP gains.

[mbncd]

Honestly I think a long term goal is good. People will burn themselves out if they go from it from the start but if they just play casually it'll get there eventually and this way the casino won't become a ghost town in a week nor maybe even a month. The minigames and GATE's are only so entertaining, they don't have enough pull in and of themselves to keep people returning for months. The way it's set up now, you have fancy things along the way but the really fancy thing will take a very long time to get. You don't have to spend all day every day in there either. Go in and do your daily cactpot and weekly jumbo and do a few races or hands of Triad, that'll give you progress without burning you out. The rare mount will still be rare when you get it, you'll get to have casual fun, it won't block you from joining your friends in this/other content and you will still get him if you earn him. That sounds like win/win/win/win/win/win to me. We don't need everyone riding the exact same mount next week, like what happens after most of them are introduced. Fenrir will be special and pretty and *hugs the pooch* yours~

[DracotheDragon]

snip

For the cards you win, i wished to keep this to just pure wins, the cards are a variable that if you gained one per win would make it smaller but some may have such bad luck where they get none, also for the lightning card i am going under the assumption you can only win one.

i haven't JUST based it on triple triad, in the wall of math post i have looked at chocobo racing (i will be getting conformation on higher ranks giving higher rewards) as well as WTFfungah (its name escapes me) after university, i will be looking at each of the gates to get a conformation on some numbers that are iffy, and using this use math to Caculate how meny of each GATE you would need to do, as well as try to create a start to farm the most GATES you can.

snip

it wouldn't become a Ghost town even with the fixes i suggest, please note the 291 days is UNDISTURBED time, meaning no sleep no brakes no nothing what i suggest is to half that or make it even lower keeping it a grind that won't empty the gold saucer but make the prizes something that is actually obtainable but still keep its rarity, in relation to another hard to obtain mount the ADS mount, Fenrir in comparison is impossible for both hardcore and casual players.

[QuinceTaru]

The issue is you are only basing it on Triple Triad, there are also the variables of cactpot, GATEs, selling duplicates of triple triad cards, when you just base it on "winning" in triple triad then of course it's going to take a long time to obtain. However when you put the other variables into account it is possible for it to take less time and if you get lucky with cactpot even less time.

A quick tip, the Bahamut card sell for 600 when you no longer need it so if it's possible to get any other cards of that rarity range as duplicates you can also try it with them.As far as I know the price of other cards are 5, 10, 20 and 50. I'm not sure how much other cards go for but seeing that Bahamut does go for 600, winning a second Lightning Card might also impose an additional increase in MGP gains.

4 star cards like Cid are 200

[Jesden]

something taking 291 days, without break is a tad too long. Lets say you only spent 12 hours a day playing this game, rather than 24, thats now 582 days, or 3 hours a day, which gets us 2328 or 6.4 years. Now yes, this is a gambling joint, so you could get lucky, and reduce that grind by an ammount, could be 10k a day, could only be 100. But taking it at base figures, not counting for good luck, over 6 years to get one item is more than ridiculous.

[chidarake]

this will probs end up getting tweaked in some way for sure, its just too heavy a grind as stated for hard-core players never mind the casual player base who this game is mostly aimed at. having a prize in game that basically says unless you win the lottery you'll never have is not really fair.

I'm sure someone will grind it out and grats to them when they do, but with all the other things we need to spend mgp on as in chocobo feeds and glam gear or pets this seems pretty unobtainable.

of course there is other grinds that are quite lengthy as in the ads mount, not really due to match length but just winning the required amount but also the que times to get in. or how about the parade whistle from 3000 com's it can be grinded or gotten naturally, from natural play I'm at 1600 after 1 year. these are pretty long grinds to achieve.


I'm sure square did some number crunching on this on an average play time of x hours by probable x amount of mgp earned and it seemed to suggest that the 1mil price tag isn't too bad a grind though... of course that math seems way of base to us... cus we have other things to do than grind for an absurd amount of time for just 1 mount regardless of how cool it is / will be.

[Sanchezz4387]

in its current form yes I agree but all they need to do is add new games to give more options of winning and the high price wont seem as bad then.

my 2 cents

1. add a battle arena like 7 where you fight with different handicaps. each wave survived you get MGP and the ultimate prize could be something rare or high MGP

2. Add slots from FF13-2....god dam I love me a good slot machine game and that would drastically give people a better chance of earning MGP

[Jesden]

Unless said new games reward more mgp than the current ones, it doesnt remove the time sink that is still way too long.

[Its_Elodie]

Yeah, I agree. I was a little shocked when I saw the prices for the prizes and compared that to what we can win with most of the games, it's gonna take a lot of dedication and time to get most of the stuff and years long grinds for fluff is crazy. I'd at least like the bunny glam, but even that's going to take me a long time. I hope they adjust things eventually. I'd hate to rely on the lottery to be able to get something decent, cuz we all know how the rng works in this game.

[Liselsia]

I did same numbers in my head yesterday and came to same conclusion.

There has to be some hidden tier of TT/CR that give a ton more MGP that we dont know about. Currently we have no idea prizes for TT tournements and we have no idea how high the brackets go for CR. I think its to early to make to many clams on MGP production when we are only comparing numbers of the entry point of TT and CR.