Prices are To hight (in relative terms)

[DracotheDragon]

You forgot to forget your TL: DR math but I just wanted to point out that by correcting your math you already got more than you wanted o.o

You wanted it to take half the time you expected it to, when in fact it'll take a tenth of the time. Be happy ^_^

ohh silly me, i have fixed it now, and i guess that is the silver lining in this XD

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the way it is worded in the introduction of the jumbo cackpot, makes it sound as if once the numbers are announced the first one with a full matching numbers win the jackpot while those who are later to it will only get a smaller (i.e they get a flatter or smaller payout ), it sounds as if only 1 person is allegeable to win the jumbo cacpot (which is bonus and all). this is how i took it into consideration, if it goes with the FFXI version where the prize is split between each player then this would make the one million we have seen a much smaller payout then what it is.

[Nyalia]

the way it is worded in the introduction of the jumbo cackpot, makes it sound as if once the numbers are announced the first one with a full matching numbers win the jackpot while those who are later to it will only get a smaller...

There is no indication of this in game, at all, anywhere. I really think you just made that up... From the patch notes (emphasis mine):

When the winning number is drawn, in order from the last digit to the first, the more matching numbers you have, the greater the prize you’ll receive. After the drawing, you will have one week (Earth time) to claim your prize. After this one-week period ends, you will be unable to claim MGP or prizes. In addition to your other winnings, you will receive the Early Bird Bonus if you claim your prize within one hour (Earth time) of the Jumbo Cactpot drawing.

The odds for the cactpot are crazy good, btw. Expected return value on a ticket is a fair bit more than the price of the ticket. I forget the current specific numbers though so I can't calculate it, but will later.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Sadly, there will likely be no change. 100% of the prizes are glamours, so Square wants people to build up their points as a long term side goal rather than the Gold Saucer being the ONLY thing people log in for.

[Fealow]

Sadly, there will likely be no change. 100% of the prizes are glamours, so Square wants people to build up their points as a long term side goal rather than the Gold Saucer being the ONLY thing people log in for.

I think they failed in that regard then as I can honestly see myself spending 90% of my time at the gold saucer for Chocobo racing and GATES, the other 10% will be put aside to earn gil in order to fund my filthy habit XD

[VoltaAsura]

I totally agree OP. While the idea was to introduce content that was a nice break from grinding, dungeons, coil and quests - its just another grind all the same.

Kinda sad actually because I wanted to work towards getting the mounts, but with the price they currently are at, I'm not even going to try.

This isn't to say that I couldn't do it, but grinding out 1 million MGP is absurd and it doesn't sound fun considering how little MGP you get for doing GS content.

There is plenty in this game that is grindy enough already, I wish they would reconsider the prices to encourage people - by giving them a reasonable achievable goal. Grinding is not fun.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I think they made the Gold Saucer as is for people to come back to every now and then while other content keeps them busy. Remember, every new patch that we gotten, people always wanted more and complain how there's nothing to keep them distracted.

[DracotheDragon]

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granted, but, please note, the time i calculated is all undisturbed time, meaning nothing but the activity, there is such a thing as placeing a long term goal to far out of reach, its more a deterrence knowing you will never get this unless you're insanely lucky, using what i have said about the price still makes it a long time goal but not an impossible goal, something that could be done in the mix of 2.55 and heavenward, but as it stands currenly the price they have placed is to high for anyone to attempt, even if you came 2nd in the jumbo cachet every week it will take you 10 consecutive 2nd places on the jumbo jackpot which in it self is a statistic nightmare to say. you'd have better luck WINNING the thing.


the distractions they have placed are good and fun, but in relative terms to the MGP we earn to what they expect us to pay, is out of balance..

please note as well this isn't the first time they changed the pricing of something. the hunts had the same issue, as did GC seal items.

[Aiselia]

Your math is off. By a zero.

Example:

Consecutive wins to get fenrir 400,000 (1 million / 25 sticking to the after win bonus)

1 million divided by 25 isn't 400,000. It's 40,000.

You seem to make the same error through the rest of your math too.

So to redo your math, let's say that you have someone intentionally losing to you in TT to help you farm, 25 MGP per match. If they're intentionally losing, you can work out where to place cards every match for you to win, so no thinking on turns, just click and drag. Let's estimate 3 seconds per turn and 3 seconds to start matches. 30 seconds per match works out to just under 14 days non-stop, 28 days in 12-hour periods.

Again, however, this is only playing cards against another player who's intentionally losing to you. It's ignoring any other potential gains like cactpot or GATEs, and is obviously going to take longer than if you could beat NPCs who give you far more MGP per win.

[DracotheDragon]

Your math is off. By a zero.

hmm so it is thank you for pointing this out i am correcting it now.

the math is fixed,

this dose significantly fix it (this is the last time i do math after not sleeping for a few days xD)

but still i find the price to be more of a deterrence then a temptation with the amount we gain
a lot of people in Balmung's gold saucer, openly voice there displeasure over shout, it is easy to see people who are unamused or put off by the high prices, i asked openly in shout what if it was 500k and most seemed to agree with the halved price

Your math is waaaay off.

i have fixed it

[Stanelis]

Honestly I don't understand the logic behind those prices.

They are acting as a deterrent from spending points in chocobo race items and the quality of the said content doesn't justify the long grind. They are maybe planning to sell a MGP boost in the mog station, eventually.