Huge Problem W/Loot Gluttony On JP Servers

[Iagainsti]

However, with the 2.5 dungeons, all of the new dungeon sets (Bogatyr's, Picaroon's, Varlet's) are desynthable and turninable. So, I clearly don't understand their inconsistently-applied policy, but they do officially/theoretically have one in place to prevent this problem in the latest dungeons.

Great write up, you're saying what my sarcastic attitude tries to portray, sadly, I'm bad at that
I believe the new 2.5 dungeon drops are desynth/tradable for the same reason the 2.4 i90 drops were ; Soldiery, CT2, and CT3 all drop either comparable(i100) or higher gear. If you are actually wearing the i100 dungeon drops, its because you've been out for 7 months and didn't upgrade your weathered gear/ T1-5 gear, which is easily done now by grinding out a few runs of CT2

[Nyalia]

I believe the new 2.5 dungeon drops are desynth/tradable for the same reason the 2.4 i90 drops were ; Soldiery, CT2, and CT3 all drop either comparable(i100) or higher gear. If you are actually wearing the i100 dungeon drops, its because you've been out for 7 months and didn't upgrade your weathered gear/ T1-5 gear, which is easily done now by grinding out a few runs of CT2

While I agree, SE reps have stated their policy to have them not be desynthable when just released, and cited that as the reason certain crafting equipment is not desynthable. So, it's just inconsistent.

The 2.4 drops were items that were already in the game before the 2.4 dungeons were released, so it seemed to me that those were desynthable since they were not new items and plenty of people already had them all already.

[Iagainsti]

While I agree, SE reps have stated their policy to have them not be desynthable when just released, and cited that as the reason certain crafting equipment is not desynthable. So, it's just inconsistent.

The 2.4 drops were items that were already in the game before the 2.4 dungeons were released, so it seemed to me that those were desynthable since they were not new items and plenty of people already had them all already.

good point on the consistency policy, very true. Btw, loved your desynth guide. Helped me power level BSM when I probably wouldn't have and been happy with GSM. Now onto ARM and I'm all set for 3.0 dungeon drop desynths.

[Noahlimits]

You're right. You have the right to roll Need on that level 30 robe and take it from the leveling character if you want to. But don't think for a second you're not being greedy.

Just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean you're being a responsible member of the community by doing it.

How is it being greedy? Why is progression in your ilvl (gear) more important than mine (seals for relic)?

I would challenge you to back that one up with evidence.

4 days, 1-50 on a fresh character, i100 at the end. Go.

Oh and you have to sleep, eat, and go to the bathroom in there.

Check my alt; Jillia Blight. 1-40 (plus other class leveled to unlock whm) in less than 8 hours total play time on the character (and up to date on all storyline quests), still even have the sprout next to the name. Will probably take another 3-4 hours to get to 50 (being generous, since DD speed runs are fast). Can EASILY farm full sets of soldiery gear in less than a day just doing primals (especially shiva hm since you'll get sold bonus almost every time in DF). Prae runs in DF only take about 20 minutes (12 in pre made), and if you DF you're guaranteed the new person soldiery bonus. Just from doing storyline quests from 1-50 you end up with almost 2 million gil if you were thrifty. You can even fill out the blanks in your gear with i110 crafted to save some grinding time. Totally plausible to do in 2-4 days... but I digress.

[LunaHoshino]

Also, dungeons are a horribly inefficient way of gearing up due to RNG. Just the other day I ran three dungeons on my low-level ARC and saw a grand total of one piece of gear that was of any use to me. Everything else that dropped was either caster, healer, or tank gear. You're much better off taking the gil you get from the dungeon and buying something from the MB or an NPC if you're in that much need of gear.

[BobbinT]

Wow! You all really and totally missing the point here. Literally....

This is not another mere need/greed looting problem, because we already have other threads discussing about this.

This is about looting in JP servers. If you're only playing in NA/EU server and never ever been to JP servers, then please stop commenting, because you all are clearly didn't understand the problem we english speaker are dealing IN JP server.

Again for all NA/EU players who never been to JP server, please just shut it. These 5 pages clearly tells that all of you still think this as just another "general" need/greed loot discussion.

[MrCookTM]

Wow! You all really and totally missing the point here. Literally....

This is not another mere need/greed looting problem, because we already have other threads discussing about this.

This is about looting in JP servers. If you're only playing in NA/EU server and never ever been to JP servers, then please stop commenting, because you all are clearly didn't understand the problem we english speaker are dealing IN JP server.

Again for all NA/EU players who never been to JP server, please just shut it. These 5 pages clearly tells that all of you still think this as just another "general" need/greed loot discussion.

Your are wrong.

The problem of the OP

Please people of Square Enix, make it so if a party member has a higher iLVL than the loot and another member exists that could really use the gear to level, make it so the higher players can't NEED but only GREED.

is ALL about the loot system and nothing else.

[Buff_Archer]

If I ever decide I want to publicly discredit myself on the forums, I now know just which post to copy/paste and use as my first draft.

[Iagainsti]

Wow! You all really and totally missing the point here. Literally....

This is about looting in JP servers. If you're only playing in NA/EU server and never ever been to JP servers, then please stop commenting, because you all are clearly didn't understand the problem we english speaker are dealing IN JP server.

Again for all NA/EU players who never been to JP server, please just shut it. These 5 pages clearly tells that all of you still think this as just another "general" need/greed loot discussion.

I think BobbinT is a prejudice against NA/EU players.

[aerialrave]

This problem isn't unique to JP servers.
Unfortunately even i130 wearing players have a need to grab the gear to hand in for GC seals.

You really can't blame the players for that. At most you can ask politely at the dungeon start that you are looking for certain gear.
Even asking people to "pass" is probably asking for too much. I think it's more fair if you only ask them to roll Greed against you if you're both looking to grab it.

Seriously I'm up to the part of the relic quest myself that requires a crap ton of Grand Company Seals (80,000 to be exact). Bombard Cores aren't cheap. When you get up to this part you will be looking to get seals any way you can.