Please remove Shark Fin Soup

[Red_Wolf]

A better tone might have been, "I'm uncomforable with Shark Fin Soup because real-life finning is horrible," rather than "SE is clearly promoting shark finning with this dish! Remove it at once!"

That's not my argument though. I don't mind a food item in the game being named shark fin soup. I don't mind my character capturing and killing sharks. It's a game.

My issue is the political rhetoric in the description. It doesn't describe shark fin soup at all. It was obviously put in there on purpose for some reason. It's a common misconception encouraged by people profiteering from killing endangered sharks. I think it is to help defend a shameful practice that still exists in the world today. The fact that SE put a bold faced lie into the description of one of the most controversial food dishes in the world tells me all I need to know.

To the trolls, why reply with insults and garbage about global warming, confusing reality, and other ridiculous assumptions? Either read the original post and make an educated response or don't. Reading the first line and replying with random crap just makes you look dumb. You're just putting a bunch of nonsensical biased filler in between the real responses.

[Tiggy]

My issue is the political rhetoric in the description. It doesn't describe shark fin soup at all. It was obviously put in there on purpose for some reason.

OR, and this may be a stretch for you, it's just a video game and an perhaps simply shows a misudnerstanding on the part of the translator. You know. An accident. Not everything is some evil conspiracy. You keep trying to act like this is political or rhetoric. It makes for more sense for this to be a simple mistake. It's a video game. Not some political entity with any amount of political clout at all. Giving this issue a political slant is your mistake and yours alone. If you don't like how political this is then please, go look in a mirror, and yell at yourself.

Stop treating things like it was all deliberate. Mistakes happen. Get over it.

[StouterTaru]

My issue is the political rhetoric in the description. It doesn't describe shark fin soup at all. It was obviously put in there on purpose for some reason. It's a common misconception encouraged by people profiteering from killing endangered sharks. I think it is to help defend a shameful practice that still exists in the world today. The fact that SE put a bold faced lie into the description of one of the most controversial food dishes in the world tells me all I need to know.

"The massive fin of a megalodon, boiled in a rich Far Eastern broth until soft and gelatinous. While not incuded in the soup, the remainder of the sharkflesh is salted and dried until rock hard, then shaved into paper-thin slices which, when boiled in hot water, create a savory soup that is the base of countless other recipes."

What is the political agenda there, that this fictional dish in a video game uses the rest of the body for something else?

PETA (or someone similar) recently hung a big sing from a building near where I work, to bring attention to the company there killing tigers in their efforts to make dandruff shampoo. I say that's two birds with one stone, the world needs less dandruff and fewer deadly animals. Sharks fall into this category for me as well.

[Silkerin]

That's not my argument though. I don't mind a food item in the game being named shark fin soup. I don't mind my character capturing and killing sharks. It's a game.

My issue is the political rhetoric in the description. It doesn't describe shark fin soup at all. It was obviously put in there on purpose for some reason. It's a common misconception encouraged by people profiteering from killing endangered sharks. I think it is to help defend a shameful practice that still exists in the world today. The fact that SE put a bold faced lie into the description of one of the most controversial food dishes in the world tells me all I need to know.

To the trolls, why reply with insults and garbage about global warming, confusing reality, and other ridiculous assumptions? Either read the original post and make an educated response or don't. Reading the first line and replying with random crap just makes you look dumb. You're just putting a bunch of nonsensical biased filler in between the real responses.

wait... maybe i read this wrong... but now... did this thread derailed to be one about conspiracy and promote shark killing? i bet it is the RMT and illuminati behind all of this

Also i love how he says that the others are making "ridiculous assumptions" in the same post he says that SE put that description to protect the companies that go after sharks? oh man...

[LineageRazor]

It was obviously put in there on purpose for some reason.

I guess we just have to agree to disagree, then. I just don't see the text in the same light that you do.

I'd be interested to know what the original Japanese text is for this item, since the English localization team often takes some pretty big liberties with how they translate the text. It woudn't surprise me to learn that they'd added that entire line specifically to put English-speaking audiences at ease, knowing what a sensitive topic shark finning is in the West. An attempt to put at ease, which wound up having the opposite effect in your case!

Not to be that guy but shark fins aren't the only things used the teeth can be used for jewelry.

Also shark skin has been used for a number of things from sand paper to Japanese armor its used in the hands so the samurai wouldn't lose their grip on their katana.

So OP needs to get their facts together. I'm not for killing of sharks but if theres laws and regulations in place and everything on the body is used.

But whaleing is bad no excuse for it. But I still hope we get to harpoon Bismarck.

OP never claimed that the whole shark carcass COULDN'T be used, but rather that it WASN'T used. Even worse, the finners don't even bother to humanely kill the shark after harvesting the fin - they just drop the thing back in the water. A shark can't survive without its fin, so the animal is doomed to a painful and fairly slow death.

Other parts of the shark can be used, but finners don't bother. The fin is valuable and takes next to no time to harvest and very little space to store, whereas the teeth, skin, and other parts take time and effort. A ship that returns with a hold full of shark fins makes MUCH more money than one that returns with a hold full of whole dead sharks. This is why finners harvest in the way that they do: it's more lucrative and efficient. It's also pretty darned horrible, if you care at all about animal rights.

[Kosmos992k]

It was obviously put in there on purpose for some reason.

Yes...indeed. But you know, so were dinosaur bones! I mean really, such huge creatures walking the earth? Preposterous. So the were obviously put in there on purpose for some reason... The question is though, who put them there, and for what reason.

Seriously though, I was prepared to take the topic at face value until you wrote the following;

My issue is the political rhetoric in the description. It doesn't describe shark fin soup at all. It was obviously put in there on purpose for some reason. It's a common misconception encouraged by people profiteering from killing endangered sharks. I think it is to help defend a shameful practice that still exists in the world today. The fact that SE put a bold faced lie into the description of one of the most controversial food dishes in the world tells me all I need to know.

It appears to me that you are implying that there is a political purpose to the color text on a craft item in this game, that the color text has nothing to do with the item or game and that further more, there is an agenda somehow supporting the killing of sharks for their fins. You're also implying a financial interest for SE in the proceeds from the harvesting and sale of shark fins. The shameful thing here is your irresponsible conduct. I believe that you're trolling, and that in fact you are damaging the 'cause' of stopping the abuse and slaughter of sharks as well as directly impuning SE's conduct. Frankly, I can't understand why you're still posting here, either way, I'm convinced you're trolling.

[Krr]

according to this thread, videogames apparently have no cultural influence and thus no cultural value. also, nobody can discern the difference between abstract game mechanics and overarching messages in an artistic work

perfect. my graduate thesis is now proven