any plans to fix DF wait times?

[RaginCajun]

The problem is very straightforward, there are a lot more damage classes to level up than there are healer or tank classes, we all know that, the solution is also straightforward, increase the rewards for low level roulette. Gil and tomes just aren't enough as they are very easy to come by. My view would be to have a token system, where you recieve a special currency redeemable in the adventurers guilds for purely cosmetic items or other such goodies. These items would cost quite a bit to obtain, hence encourage people to run the instances more often, and hopefully help out the queue times for low lvl

[Callinon]

The problem is very straightforward, there are a lot more damage classes to level up than there are healer or tank classes, we all know that, the solution is also straightforward, increase the rewards for low level roulette. Gil and tomes just aren't enough as they are very easy to come by. My view would be to have a token system, where you recieve a special currency redeemable in the adventurers guilds for purely cosmetic items or other such goodies. These items would cost quite a bit to obtain, hence encourage people to run the instances more often, and hopefully help out the queue times for low lvl

I'd like to see low level roulette change to one bonus per day per job. There are people out there who'd like to be leveling more than one job at a time and would assist with queue times if the system would give them a reason to.

[RaginCajun]

I'd like to see low level roulette change to one bonus per day per job. There are people out there who'd like to be leveling more than one job at a time and would assist with queue times if the system would give them a reason to.

Fair point and agree wholeheartedly, though I'll admit my suggestion was made with the upcoming expansion in mind. My guess is if its bad now it'll be worse then, and SE will have to find ways to keep the new players in touch with the old

[Brill_]

Want people to play tanks and healers? Try being nice to them. Some people treat them like dirt, it's no wonder people don't want to play these jobs. Was running a dungeon today, accidently hit the wrong button during a boss fight and didn't pick up the adds. Adds flocked to healer, healer dies, we wiped. Group kicked me.

[RaginCajun]

Want people to play tanks and healers? Try being nice to them. Some people treat them like dirt, it's no wonder people don't want to play these jobs. Was running a dungeon today, accidently hit the wrong button during a boss fight and didn't pick up the adds. Adds flocked to healer, healer dies, we wiped. Group kicked me.

I see that a lot, and it annoys the crap outta me, especially when its dd's prompting the vote as all they gotta do is 'pew pew burn'. Tanks and heals got the short end of the responsibility stick imo, as if things go wrong its never the dd's who don't avoid aoes fault, its the healers for not being able to predict stupidity, or the tanks for not 'pulling like a pro'

[JimboTCB]

I see that a lot, and it annoys the crap outta me, especially when its dd's prompting the vote as all they gotta do is 'pew pew burn'. Tanks and heals got the short end of the responsibility stick imo, as if things go wrong its never the dd's who don't avoid aoes fault, its the healers for not being able to predict stupidity, or the tanks for not 'pulling like a pro'

I don't get this desire from DPS to rush through dungeons and then cry like a baby if the tank won't/can't speedrun it...

DPS have already waited half an hour in the queue, what difference does an extra ten minutes doing the dungeon itself make?

Tanks can just laugh, go at their own pace, tell DPS to go to hell, and get an instant queue if they're votekicked.

[elemental10]

Agree with daily rewards per day, per reward per job.

You won't see me running low level roulette because of 2 reasons:

1) I can do 1.5 expert in 1 low level dungeon roulette run. (It's just too long.)
2) Low levels are the most ignorant and snobbish players i've ever seen. (And that saying after seeing a lot of insult hurling between a tank and a blm)

[JaderauntOnJenova]

New player so excuse any generalities.... here's some ideas:

A) make tanking/healing easier or reduce the perception that it's hard with more early/mid level tutorial quests (not saying it's hard but I'm suggesting people think it's hard or don't want to lead the party as tank or healer)

B) incentivize tanking/healers in loot tables or xp (while below 50) - people like getting gear so maybe tanks and healers are easier to gear up than DPS ... More loot more players?

C) give tanks and healers more solo DPS capabilities to make them more appealing to the solo player who only occasionally runs duty finder (assumes DPS player choose those classes cause they think their easier to solo)

I swapped to white Mage after 30+ levels of BLM/Thaumaturge because I was tired of the 30-40 min dungeon waits and it turned out I like WHM a lot more.

[Wournsfeik_Untawhasyn]

*snip for content, but it's the next post up*

The thing is people don't like the responsibility of Tanking because you're basically the party leader. You're the first into the fire if everything's going right. And you're the first to be blamed if things go wrong (even if it's objectively not your fault). The playerbase needs some fixing if people are going to be okay with the idea of tanking for random people who could turn out to be massive jerks.

Just the other day I ran duty roulette as Marauder (working on getting it to 50 so I have both tanks) and ran into a group that didn't kick me, but as I was trying to ask what they wanted from the dungeon run, the response I got was literally "I want you to stfu and tank". Mind you, I kept going because I got that they wanted a full clear, which was what I was interested in doing, but if I wasn't currently running FCoB and wasn't seriously experienced Tanking, I would've just left and never touched a tank class again. I've built up a thick skin for that kind of unwarranted contempt.

All the in game incentive in the world won't help overcome people not wanting to deal with that vitriol.

[JaderauntOnJenova]

The thing is people don't like the responsibility of Tanking because you're basically the party leader. You're the first into the fire if everything's going right. And you're the first to be blamed if things go wrong (even if it's objectively not your fault). The playerbase needs some fixing if people are going to be okay with the idea of tanking for random people who could turn out to be massive jerks..

Do other class's like Bard or Dragoon have the ability to pull and transfer the agro to the tank? I recall hunters being able to do that in WoW and it often was the hunters job to pull trash mobs and mini-bosses (and some bosses).