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    To Yoshi-P & Team: About Lightning card and future tourny cards

    Here me out please people. This idea is only if it was already planned for card to be tourny winner locked forever. Who knows, there might already be plans to not keep the card tourny winner locked.

    I know the Lightning card will be for a player that gets top spot in tournament. But I would like to request, and have a possible solution, for the tournament cards to not be kept exclusively to the tournament forever with no way for any other players to ever get in their collection.

    I understand the need for a winning card to feel like something special, and this is why I have a solution I hope you guys will consider. I have a couple possible solutions actually. And I am saying this not with the assumption that I won't be able to win one, but even from the viewpoint as someone that did win one if I were lucky enough to. I still would not want that card to be exclusive to certain player or players. As a winner of tournament or loser of tournament, I would not want my fellow TT players to be locked out of a card forever. For me, just being highly ranked after the event, and the currency payout, plus a limited time exclusive period of only very few players having said card, is more than good enough.

    I believe the card should be exclusive to those players, but only for a limited time.The only thing that should be permanently exclusive is a higher MGP reward or whatever currency payout, and anything else used aside from the card. Then at a future date, like maybe some months later, release card to everyone using 1 of the 2 following solutions. This way the winners have some time to enjoy being the only ones with the card, but others don't have to feel crushed with the thought of having a missing number in their collection. After the exclusive period, release the card in 1 of these ways...

    Solution #1: Make it available in-game somehow, like maybe it has to be bought from the card trader for a huge amount of MGP. I think this solution is best.

    OR

    Solution #2: Make it available in the cash shop like you guys did with the limited time seasonal items so that players could still get them even though they missed the events. This solution might not be the best since TT cards are not vanity, and therefor could be considered pay to win. So I don't think any of us would like Solution #2.

    This would apply to all future tournament cards. Solution 1 seems best. This way the winners still get to enjoy being the sole owners for a while, and those that did not win would just have to wait, but at least will be able to get it one day.

    EDIT: No card game rewards a winner with an exclusive card that will affect gameplay, or those players would now have an advantage over others. The only exclusiveness winners usually get is alternative artwork, or some other different version of either an existing card or a new card, but these cards are made available to everyone, except for the artwork or card vanity exclusive to the winners. In example, the winning Lightning cards would have different artwork or some other card vanity different from the version everyone else gets, but the name of card and the gameplay elements like the numbers are the same.
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    Wow we haven't even had 1 tournament yet. Jumping the gun a little early don't you think?

    Also, every one of your suggestions cheapens the tournament prize.
    Secondly, what makes you think another card won't eventually become the prize and the Lightning card moved to other content in time? This would follow the existing pattern where old content is nerfed as new stuff is released. So do you really expect this tournament prize to be any different at all?
    Lastly, tons of people specifically asked them not to do a single thing with Triad in the cash shop. Your second solution will never happen.

    Seems like a solution in search of a problem.

    This might be a novel idea, but why don't we actually SEE what a Tournament works like and how the prizes are awarded before we act so full of ourselves to think we can fix it?
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 02-26-2015 at 12:42 AM.

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    I personally do not want cards to be in cash shop ANYTIME soon. Perhaps like season events and when i say that im talking a extended amount of time (year).
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    Maybe the tournament reward cards could operate on a rotation so that they each come up from time to time rather than being one-offs.
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    Tiggy, you act like I like solution 2. I clearly said Solution 1 seems best, but then sound like you're patronizing me. And no that does not cheapen the reward. You're playing for all the wrong reasons if you're thinking "Mine, all mine!" There is more to the reward than just the card, and the card would still be exclusive for extended period of time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tempting View Post
    I personally do not want cards to be in cash shop ANYTIME soon. Perhaps like season events and when i say that im talking a extended amount of time (year).
    Same here. Why I suggested Solution 1.

    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    Maybe the tournament reward cards could operate on a rotation so that they each come up from time to time rather than being one-offs.
    This would fall under Solution #1. That's one possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos View Post
    And no that does not cheapen the reward.
    You're trying to actively take a tournament reward that is currently an exclusive prize and put it into other methods to obtain making it more common. Do you not know how prizes work? The exclusivity is what makes it a good prize to begin with. The act of making it more common distinctly lowers it's value as a prize. Your suggestion cheapens the reward. This is how prizes for tournaments work. It has nothing to do with Me me me since I won't be attending even a single tournament. So put that scapegoat back into your box.

    Sometimes things have value specifically because of exclusivity. That's what drives people to compete. You clearly don't understand how prizes work as a motivational tool for people.


    Quote Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos View Post
    You're playing for all the wrong reasons if you're thinking "Mine, all mine!"
    Actually by trying to make this item more common so you presumably can get it too makes me think you are in the Mine, all mine category.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 02-26-2015 at 12:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos View Post
    Solution #2: Make it available in the cash shop
    thats called "pay to win." no.
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    Everytime I come on here I see someone complaining about how something is exclusive or not a 100% drop.

    Its getting old.

    And please no cards (or anything really) in the cash shop. Please.... X_X
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    You're trying to actively take a tournament reward that is currently an exclusive prize and put it into other methods to obtain making it more common. Do you not know how prizes work? The exclusivity is what makes it a good prize to begin with. The act of making it more common distinctly lowers it's value as a prize. Your suggestion cheapens the reward. This is how prizes for tournaments work.
    This solution does not make it more common unless it could be sold on the market, which it can't. It's still a limited card regardless. In example, the card becomes available once a year either in another TT event, or something, and/or costs a crazy amount of MGP, or whatever is decided. And even if Yoshi-P ever decides to make TT cards sellable on the market as he suggested he might in the future after more cards are released, certain event cards like Lightning could be kept unsellable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos View Post
    This solution does not make it more common unless it could be sold on the market, which it can't. It's still a limited card regardless. In example, the card becomes available once a year either in another TT event, or something, and/or costs a crazy amount of MGP, or whatever is decided. And even if Yoshi-P ever decides to make TT cards sellable on the market as he suggested he might in the future after more cards are released, certain event cards like Lightning could be kept unsellable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Secondly, what makes you think another card won't eventually become the prize and the Lightning card moved to other content in time? This would follow the existing pattern where old content is nerfed as new stuff is released. So do you really expect this tournament prize to be any different at all?
    I feel like I already asked the relevant question for what you just said.Based on the same pattern they've done for everything else eventually that card will be bumped out into other methods and a new tourny card will take it's place. The entire game has worked this way since launch. Why do you think your "solution" isn't part of the obvious plan?

    Once again you are judging and asking for changes on something WE HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN ACTION A SINGLE TIME. As far as we know 1000 people sign up and 10 will get the card. We don't know. You're literally complaining about something you can't possibly know about yet.
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