Low probabilities of Triple Triad drops, big fish, etc. Grinds becoming unreal.

[Purrfectstorm]

Ok so I normally don't complain about things like drop rates. I farmed Atma for 3 relics, 2 with old rates, no big deal. I farm ponies all the time and still only have 1. But some of the RNG is sapping the fun out of this game. I've spent 7 hours trying to get Bahamut from Elmer mostly winning. I've spent 13 hours trying to catch Kuno the Killer for the Feast of Famine quest and I have full FSH BiS. I'm really into achievements and vanity items and silly little side quests but the grind is too much for some of this stuff.

As an example, I played all day today and this was my experience:

- Unable to catch Shonisaurus or Kuno the Killer (out of 4-5 30-45 min windows).
- Unable to get any Triple Triad cards
- Unable to get a PvP queue
- GATES were a bust
- The Cactpot was a bust

In short, I didn't make any progress towards any of my game goals and the frequency of days like this seems to be increasing. We're not talking about the game being too "hard," there's just too much waste of time on unfun tasks.

Anyway, I just got a PS4 yesterday and I'm going to spend my game time tomorrow playing The Last of Us. Maybe I just need a break for a bit but I'd like SE to consider that some players don't want 60 hour grinds just for a fishing achievement or 12 hour grinds for 1/80 Triple Triad cards.

I liked this game a lot more when I was just finishing most content by the time the next patch came out, but it seems SE is worried they can't release content fast enough for the people who play 12 hours a day and so are making the grinds worse and worse. This takes up more and more of our game time to extend content lifespan but a higher percentage of that game time is grinding stuff over and over and never getting anywhere.

Right now I can play 15 hours a day and hardly make a dent in all the stuff I want to do. You can cut back on the grinds from now on SE. PLEASE. With a little better odds, we can maybe see results for a 4-8 hour gaming session.

[Staris]

saw ps4, laughed
moved on with my life

[Rankina]

I swear, you people think this games grind is hard? Try PSO2 farming for 11/12* weapons and units, RO's atrocious drop rates... even the relic quest now isnt as bad as XI's.

"- Unable to catch Shonisaurus or Kuno the Killer (out of 4-5 30-45 min windows)."

I fkin lol'd.

[Purrfectstorm]

I swear, you people think this games grind is hard? Try PSO2 farming for 11/12* weapons and units, RO's atrocious drop rates... even the relic quest now isnt as bad as XI's.

"- Unable to catch Shonisaurus or Kuno the Killer (out of 4-5 30-45 min windows)."

I fkin lol'd.

That was just in 1 day. I've tried to catch just Kuno in 26 different windows. I know grinds in other games are worse. I'm not playing other games. I'm playing this one. I have a right to say I don't like the direction the game is going in. I don't want things handed to me but I feel like I should be able to accomplish at least ONE small bit of progress towards a goal in a 4-8 hour day. This is not a point I'm going to debate further with anyone because things like too much grind are subjective. I'm just stating where I personally draw the line. I want my games to be fun and if I have to do unfun things to achieve a goal, I might go there also, but what I won't do every day is unfun things to NOT achieve a goal LOL

[Canadane]

Welcome to MMOs.

[Wobble]

Welcome to MMOs.

So tired of the same old generic response....


But OP I do agree with your points.

[Silvanoshi]

I have to agree.

I gave up crafting a long time ago --- Spiritbonding for gathering materia (if I even get the right one) sucked big time. I'd rather have havens or whatever it was from 1.0 for crafting/gathering.

As far as other aspects of the game... Lights were horrible. So were books. I'd rather see synched EX primal fights to bring back that old Titan HM feeling when darklight was good gear.

[Miste]

As an example, I played all day today and this was my experience:

- Unable to catch Shonisaurus or Kuno the Killer (out of 4-5 30-45 min windows).
- Unable to get any Triple Triad cards
- Unable to get a PvP queue
- GATES were a bust
- The Cactpot was a bust

Fishing is totally an optional thing in this game...if you do not enjoy the thrill of finally catching that fish that has been haunting your nightmares for weeks then it is not the content for you and you should probably try to do something else. The RNG for fishing some of those hard fish is bad, but its for people who like that sort of thing.

Triple Triad Card drop rate I can attest with fact is not that bad so idk what you are doing that you are not winning cards. In one day I went from starter deck (plus one dungeon card) to having 27 cards, all of which I won off of npcs (I also barely knew what I was doing since I hadn't played TT since FF8 in like 1999). Today I started at around 35 cards and went up to 46 or something. All won from npcs save one I got Ahriman from Dzemael dungeon. Yes, my RNG might have been a tad better than some people, but that is way too many wins of cards for it to be just all luck. Sometimes I even went to an npc and got a card first win. (This wasn't like non stop TT all day either, I took breaks for eating, chores, other in-game activities, and even coil for like 3 hours)

PVP - idk about that stuff

GATES - I dont bother with this, I'd rather not lose MGP since I can farm Chocobo Racing and TT for more MGP

Cactpot is like only a little better than IRL lottery, its a lottery and well for most players it is going to be a bust, until you get lucky one day (since the odds are better than IRL by a lot)

[Tiggy]

Oh no it's an MMO and I have to work for things. *huff*

[Avyiur]

People crying about the grind in this game, let me direct to a real grind game, i.e. Lineage 1 and lineage 2.

The grind isn't hard at all, just tedious. Also everything you mentioned is optional, and I mean everything.