Quote Originally Posted by Mastanight View Post
Also when the time frame given is 60-120 minutes, I doubt any DF party ever stays that long together. If DF was shorter time frames, vote abdoned that was usually used to kick people for no reason would be not needed.
Speaking strictly empirically, just because it has been your experience that groups will enter a duty, wipe a couple times, then quit, doesn't mean that this is what happens to everyone and the entire system should be changed to accommodate those who would rather give up on a group and requeue instead of learning from their mistakes and completing the duty successfully. That is why there is ample time given for every duty. Perhaps when you raid more you'll see that the amount of time given is useful, even if you have a pre-made group.