Triple Triad is the same thing as Atma

[Tiggy]

Actually it's a pretty fair comparison. RNG grinds are a thing of the past and it should stay that way. I'm not sure why people like you want to keep grinding their life away on boring content. It baffles me.

RNG in 1 feature and RNG in another feature do not make the two exactly the same. The have a similar feature. That's it. As I said the OP was using hyperbole and you seem to be caught up in the lack of reality his comparison had.

By that rule Mining is Atma, Fishing is Atma, Crafting is Atma, etc. See how silly that comparison is? All those features are in no way the same but they all contain an RNG element. Say it for what it is. RNG sucks. Don't make meaningless and poorly thought out comparisons. You aren't helping your cause by poorly articulating your complaint.

[Magis]

Actually it's a pretty fair comparison. RNG grinds are a thing of the past and it should stay that way. I'm not sure why people like you want to keep grinding their life away on boring content. It baffles me.

That's pretty much your opinion. I find currency grinds and daily quest grinds turn MMOs into jobs rather than just playing and hoping for an item to drop. One taps into that gambler itch casinos give, as well as rarely have hard limits, while the other makes it feel like you HAVE to do X, Y times or else you will fall behind. Then once your in-game job is done, gotta log off cause nothing else to do.

For those who play little: Forces you to play or you miss out. Better hit that cap or else you are limited for next week!
For those who play alot: After the daily/weekly is done, limits you and there is nothing to do.

[Starlord]

As far as RNG is concerned 3 stars and below are not all That hard to get, its the 4-5 stars that are hard to get ( which is acceptable since they are Really rare cards).

1 star- very easy
2 star- easy
3 star- Normal rate ( can still have some trouble getting a 3 star depending on your luck)
4 star- Hard
5 star- Atma drop rates

I really don't see a problem with it.

[Cidel]

PS. one definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result.

I don't particularly agree with the gripes of the TC, just sounds like one of many upset that people around them are scoring the Bahamut card or something while they're still planted in front of King Elmer.

Anywho, that aside, I am tired of seeing this particular quote thrown around so easily on these forums, especially when the topic in-question is random number generators. The whole point of running content over and over for a RNG item they want is to finally see "a different result." That's the whole basis behind Primal drops, Coil, WoD, whatever. Doing them differently isn't going to change what pops out at the end. By that logic everyone is insane for replaying content more than once if what they want doesn't drop.

I can agree with the rest of your post though, just not that "PS." tidbit. Maybe I can find fault with "the dev's intention of the content" (lolhunts), but that's too much of a tangent.

[brody138]

Would be actually nice to be able to use the better cards we actually win. I find it VERY unfair that we can only use one rare card (2 stars or higher) per deck but the npcs has no such restrictions at all. And random is such a nightmare.

So go unlock more cards? Once you obtain 30 unique cards, you can freely use 2 stars, and when you obtain 60 unique cards, you can freely use 3 stars. You will always have 1 card of any rarity that you can use.

At least learn the system before you start complaining about how you don't like it. Jeeze.

[Starlord]

So go unlock more cards? Once you obtain 30 unique cards, you can freely use 2 stars, and when you obtain 60 unique cards, you can freely use 3 stars. You will always have 1 card of any rarity that you can use.

At least learn the system before you start complaining about how you don't like it. Jeeze.

There should at least be 1 rule that allows you to use any cards you like with no restriction.

[Kosmos992k]

Anywho, that aside, I am tired of seeing this particular quote thrown around so easily on these forums, especially when the topic in-question is random number generators.

As I understand it, the cards you can obtain from the NPCs are limited in scope. So, playing and replaying against the NPCs in the expectation of getting anything other than the bog standard cards you already have sounds pretty insane to me.

[Starlord]

As I understand it, the cards you can obtain from the NPCs are limited in scope. So, playing and replaying against the NPCs in the expectation of getting anything other than the bog standard cards you already have sounds pretty insane to me.

Most NPCs from my understanding, have at least 1 rare card to obtain and the rest ( 1-2 are common).

[Fluffya]

One thing about RGN that is often over look is the cumulative effect and context of it.

For a player who already finish the previous contents, a new RGN based content is nothing.
(Full fledge omni-crafters going for all zodiarks zeta since nothing to do for example)

For a player who still working on crafting and trying to get his first zodiark weapon, RGN is everywhere. Which is time consuming since you are restricted to only do one thing. (Trying to manage gils, seals and time)

That why most ppl now hate RGN based contents since it hold them back for nothing. RGN is just something to keep contents last longer.

[Kosmos992k]

Most NPCs from my understanding, have at least 1 rare card to obtain and the rest ( 1-2 are common).

Then I stand corrected.