The Future of THM

[Klive]

that doesn't say that the job is gonna be something entirely different front he class, it just says its not an advanced version of the job. what they mean by that is that jobs wont be the same as the class with the same gear and a couple new skills, it will be something new altogether. what you are suggesting is that archer will turn into an entirely new class.

using your logic we can say that glad will be white mage, lancer will be black mage, pug will be paladin, con will be dragoon......., you see i doesn't really make sense because jobs are going to be an extension of the current class(not just renamed classes) new gear, maybe new weapons, and new skills, im not saying they wont make arch bard, i just think it would be ridiculous.

Nah, that is twisting my logic. My logic is that a job is going to add to the class in one of two ways. Specializing it into a single role or adding a new elements to the class. For example, paladin is a specialized role for the gla into tank only. The paladin will have less DPS but more tanking ability. The archer only has one role though. Adding more dps abilities to a dps class? What would the point be? You can do that by leveling lancer or something and pulling their abilities. Archer is unique in the fact it is already specialized as DPS. You can not specialize it further, so adding new elements would be ideal.

[syntaxlies]

Nah, that is twisting my logic. My logic is that a job is going to add to the class in one of two ways. Specializing it into a single role or adding a new elements to the class. For example, paladin is a specialized role for the gla into tank only. The paladin will have less DPS but more tanking ability. The archer only has one role though. Adding more dps abilities to a dps class? What would the point be? You can do that by leveling lancer or something and pulling their abilities. Archer is unique in the fact it is already specialized as DPS. You can not specialize it further, so adding new elements would be ideal.

Exactly, but I don't think bard should complilment acher in that way. I'd like to see archer with some crowd control and dot buff shots, also like I stated above maybe use a cross bow instead to change the feel a bit.

[Coglin]

why not ? In all MMOs bards are very fluent bow users.

[syntaxlies]

why not ? In all MMOs bards are very fluent bow users.

bards have also been known to use swords and daggers as secondary weapons, i wouldn't want glad to be bard either.

[Umo]

The archer only has one role though. Adding more dps abilities to a dps class? What would the point be? You can do that by leveling lancer or something and pulling their abilities. Archer is unique in the fact it is already specialized as DPS. You can not specialize it further, so adding new elements would be ideal.

This argument doesn't follow your own quote...

Rather than being advanced versions of classes, we would like players to think of jobs as specialized playing styles optimized for partying. While playing as a particular job will render you unable to equip certain actions of other classes, you will be compensated with access to exclusive actions, which can be acquired through quests.

Almost all DPS classes are already specialized as DPS. They can change their playing style (even their role) by equipping another class' abilities. Job system will prevent that, enhancing differentiation between roles on determined situations. It will make you want to have that exclusive actions in order to do your best on your role (Tank, DPS, Healing, Support), actions that don't come from another class.
BRD for ARC? C'mon...

On topic:

I just can't see THM being moved to "White Mage".
Why would they give CON the Curaga and Raise line of spells if they were intended to be given to THM's job? Sounds kind of silly to me.
It makes more sense for CON to move to White Mage at this point in time due to the last updates CON received.
That's not to say that THM will go to Black Mage. You still have Dark Knight or Time Mage, or various other things a THM could move in to.

^This.

[Umo]

BRD for ARC? C'mon...

Even though this is off topic, after watching Letter from the Producer LIVE I'm quoting myself just to eat my own words. Yes, I was wrong on this matter. Still it sounds odd for me, though...

PS: Now I realize that anything could happen with WHM and BLM jobs...

[Denmo]

Uh guys? You realize you can use CON spells as a THM right? Right? What's stopping a BLM from doing the same?

[syntaxlies]

Uh guys? You realize you can use CON spells as a THM right? Right? What's stopping a BLM from doing the same?

no one knows what type of restrictions jobs will have to cross class skills. for all we know, when using a job you can equip any skills from other classes