FYI Capt. Spock here when like 7 pages in the cnj Forums about this very topic so save yourself the headache lol

Can we combine this with the treads in which is coglin already having this argument in?

To me coming to a conclusion based on what spells the different classes have doesn't make sense simply because in a lot of ff games both whm and blm had access to heals and nukes.

I think in the end the player base decides what a class really is. Take a summoner in ffxi, a supposed dps, however if you leveled one you know most times you were expected to heal because of your huge mana pool. I played a RDM and i was almost never brought into a party for enfeebling/light dps.

I guess my point is no matter what SE labels the class, if you want cnj to be a blm and you can gear your char to be like that then do it.