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    A question About the direct X11 client and the PS4

    Will there be a direct x 11 client for the PS4?

    knowing the specs the PS4 is compatable with Direct X 12, so i would love a dev's response on if the Direct X 11 will be launched on ps4 with the PC version or will there be a deley between the two versions

    launching it should be easy as well just update the client as you have done though the auto download function on PS4

    this came up between me and a friend talking about the hard were and how games using DX11 have been currently :3 were nerds XD
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    I've been wondering this as well.

    I'm gonna be quite disappointed if the ps4 doesn't get any of the pretty new graphics, especially dat water. I want some good looking water in this game damn it
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    Now I may be wrong but I myself was told that the playstation does not run off DirectX they have something else. So seeing as SE has said nothing about a counterpart for the PS4 I would go under the assumption that PS4 will not be getting it. I could be terrible wrong though just what I heard is all. Also it is an entirely new client, I believe you will need to re-download the entire game on the DX11 PC users as well.

    Again I could be wrong, just the stuff I heard combined with my "small" amount of understanding on the matter.
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    Essentially zero chance of PS4 getting another client. It's fixed hardware. The PS4 client is already optimized for PS4.

    PC's can get a new client because the hardware is upgradable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappah View Post
    I've been wondering this as well.

    I'm gonna be quite disappointed if the ps4 doesn't get any of the pretty new graphics, especially dat water. I want some good looking water in this game damn it
    Turely i will say looking at the capabilities, that is coming out on ps4 as well as the amazing looking games all using DX11 and DX12, on the ps4, i would be extremely disappointed in SE if they ignored one of there biggest gaming bases, they would only be shooting themselves in a foot, by installing another form of "LOL PS3 LIMITATIONS". i hope we do get a official dev report, when they announced the DX11 they never specified the specs of the PC that should be able to run it or mentioned the PS4 (which was talked about during the stream)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hollowed View Post
    Now I may be wrong but I myself was told that the playstation does not run off DirectX they have something else. So seeing as SE has said nothing about a counterpart for the PS4 I would go under the assumption that PS4 will not be getting it. I could be terrible wrong though just what I heard is all. Also it is an entirely new client, I believe you will need to re-download the entire game on the DX11 PC users as well.

    Again I could be wrong, just the stuff I heard combined with my "small" amount of understanding on the matter.
    Ps4 is capable of using DX11, and DX12 (which is basically a massive stability update all softwere and not physical.) the ps4 is built with it into it :3
    source on DX11/dx11.1+ compatablity http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/0...atures-at-gdc/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    Essentially zero chance of PS4 getting another client. It's fixed hardware. The PS4 client is already optimized for PS4.

    PC's can get a new client because the hardware is upgradable.
    this dosnt truly add up, yes they can get a new client due to hard were meaning computers that out work the game can get a better game but the PS4 client is a PC client with a hybrid graphics setting between Ultra and Maximum, (minus a few Normal PC settings.) and with this the software is highly adaptable and upgradeable, this being said, the game DOSE NOT, use the full Ram or power of the PS4, when tested with this game as said from SE during the ps4 tests it didn't use the full extended power of the ps4, and thus, it can be upgraded software to utilise it,

    the ps4 in comparison's sake, is extremely similar specs to a computer they are designing DX11's client for,

    the main issue with the game comes in the game's engine, where it struggles greatly within its 'optamized' versions the ps4 being a PC version (and not a ps3 version upgraded) tends to only stagger during 1 moment of the game, a mass of characters in corethas (which causes extreme lag and graphical glitches on pc)

    Saying the game couldn't be able to be run on PS4 with DX11, due to IT's hardware would mean there is no true point in making a DX11, seeing how a very small number of people (those with extreme gaming rigs) would only be able to use it, and it would be a waste of money. this is where the question comes into play of if the PS4 dosnt get a DX11, (which it can handle) will the PS4 gain a update to gain a hybrid like it did with the PC's graphical settings.

    oh and before anyone says something along the lines of "it is already there they cannot change the launcher" the launcher updates itself though a miniature download though SE, then downloads a mini file on the PS4 to allow the launcher change, this means the launcher can be changed freely, by SE and not stopped by SONY.

    the specs are there, and the software there, but one thing we are lacking is info from SE D:
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    I wouldn't bet on it coming to PS4 to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollowed View Post
    Now I may be wrong but I myself was told that the playstation does not run off DirectX they have something else. So seeing as SE has said nothing about a counterpart for the PS4 I would go under the assumption that PS4 will not be getting it. I could be terrible wrong though just what I heard is all. Also it is an entirely new client, I believe you will need to re-download the entire game on the DX11 PC users as well.

    Again I could be wrong, just the stuff I heard combined with my "small" amount of understanding on the matter.
    PS4 uses DX11. In fact, Sony improved on the DX11 used for PS4 and it has features even the PC versions do not have.

    Those improvements include better shader pipeline access, improved debugging support features out the box, and much lower level access to the system hardware enabling developers to do more cool things. Thats achieved not only through an modified DirectX 11.1 API, but also a secondary low-level API specifically for the PS4 hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katsaria View Post
    I wouldn't bet on it coming to PS4 to be honest.
    please explain why?, this is why i want a dev response in the big post i did above, i have listed the combatablity but due to the increadable secrecy they hold over everything most only presume strongly, (which has been proven wrong strongly as well) i really wish for a dev response, because all the vague and no information they feed us the more questions arise D: and thats not a good model when it comes to a launcher like this, which can affect a lot of there customers D:
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    FFXIV is already optimized for PS4 it doesn't use directx.
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    The PS4 could operate the new eye-candy that the DX11 PC client will have, but the question is if the devs want to budget rendering resources for it since it'll be a performance hit anywhere it's used, as the game on PS4 already has trouble maintaining a consistent frame rate.
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