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  1. #41
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    lol OP so pro at photoshop /clap
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  2. #42
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    Soveia Shadowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by YujikaM View Post
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    And this is why we can clearly see your images are cheap photoshops. Here's the thing, the timer shown in your image has a significantly higher error level potential than the rest of the picture, suggesting the rest of the image has been re-saved, but the timer was added after the first save. How are you gonna explain the timer being so ridiculously bright in the ELA? Yes, digitally altered image.

    Quote Originally Posted by FotoForensics
    What is Error Level Analysis?

    Error Level Analysis (ELA) is an algorithm that evaluates the error level potential of a JPEG image. JPEG is a lossy image format; every resave degrades the picture. The amount of degradation varies based on the number of saves. The first save loses a lot, the second save loses a little more, and by the 20th save, it is probably as low quality as it will ever get.

    When a picture is modified, the changed parts have a higher error level potential than the rest of the image. ELA works by saving the picture at a known quality level (like a JPEG at 95%), and then determines how much changed. Edits and splices appear as regions with more change. See the tutorial for more detail.
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  3. #43
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    You can tell they're fake because they're not the original source? Lol guy.
    The uploaded image is altered with a reduced quality obviously there are errors my video displayed that already.

    Edit: You mean because its 1 cluster of color where as majority of the other things aren't?
    Obviously a 3d model isn't going to look as good when its transferred to pixels compared to an image thats already 2d and requires less pixels.
    If you don't believe it originally looks like that take a screen shot and zoom in

    Do you have short term memory loss? He scanned a lower res picture that isn't the original source LOL. Why are you still using that when its an downgraded image with alterations I already pointed out?

    Its unlikely to minimize the screen and do other things? People afk allll the time how in the world is me being afk in 1 spot unbelievable. I'm standing there now lol.

    Edit 2:
    Quote Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah View Post
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    Obviously you haven't experienced this because you fall under the list of people I pointed out earlier
    You're either
    -Not home long enough to even sit in a queue that long(Work/School)
    -Or doing the content that majority of the players are doing.
    If you've been keeping up with the updates and not revisiting older content then there is your reason why you aren't in a queue that long- Congrats you're where you should be.
    People who have made their accounts more recently do not have the same Keeper of the lake queue time in something like coil turn 8.
    -Newer content appears and becomes populated
    -Older content has less players doing it so queues are longer
    Its not hard to comprehend
    I guarantee I can pull this off again Tuesday considering people wont be playing right away (Work/School) and just doing weeklies OR new content.
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    Last edited by YujikaM; 02-23-2015 at 06:22 PM.

  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by YujikaM View Post
    You can tell they're fake because they're not the original source? Lol guy.
    The uploaded image is altered with a reduced quality obviously there are errors my video displayed that already.
    No, I can tell it's a fake because the timer is of significantly higher quality than the rest of the picture, it is a clear indication the timer was added later. You take the screenshot, you photoshop it, you save it again, the JPEG compression lowers the quality of the image, but your alterations are not hit as hard as the rest of the picture. You can't necessarily see it by looking at the image, even when zoomed in, but the ELA does see these types of details.

    Summary: The timer should appear dark and blurry on ELA, but it appears bright, which it should not. This indicates the timer has been altered after the initial save.

    Don't even need to get to the part how unlikely it is you have been standing on the same spot with the same windows open all that time.

    http://fotoforensics.com/messages.php?challenge=1 Do some of these and you can see what I mean.
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    Last edited by Sove92; 02-23-2015 at 06:13 PM.

  5. #45
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    Syanonn Rias
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    Good for your screenshots, as it doesn't matter because I can get in dungeons just fine even as DPS...
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  6. #46
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    I'm sorry, I'm going to have to agree with the naysayers, I've been playing for 6 months and do a lot of duty finder for various stuff and there ain't no way anything takes that long.
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  7. #47
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    I had a friend yesterday do turns 1-9 on a dps character, and for not a single turn did he wait longer than an hour for his queue. and he is on the same datacenter.

    I'm also calling fake on this one.
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  8. #48
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    Kyan Ashton
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    Actually, in regards to those using FotoForensic....it appears that there's also a large possibility that it wasn't changed. I used a screenshot I had of being queued up, for anything, so I could take a screenshot of the duty box, and...well...

    Here's the original screenshot:


    The only edits I did were to the chatbox (if you don't want to believe it, more power to you) in MS Paint. No Photoshop or other editting programs. It has been uploaded to imgur.com.

    Here is the FotoForensic analysis of the imgur image:


    The Duty Status window also has the Time Expired/Average Wait Time bright. Similar to Ladon's post. His is slightly brighter in the timer area, but then again, I only have a few digits, while his has all the digits filled.

    It may be because the numbers for both are subject to change, I don't know. However, the box sizes are the same on both his duty status windows and mine, in regards to the alleged edited parts.

    Food for thought. I am also slightly not willing to believe that there IS such a queue, but FotoForensic isn't proof as such yet.

    If you don't believe me, do it yourself. Queue up, screenshot the picture, upload it then run an analysis on it.
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    Last edited by tjw; 02-23-2015 at 06:58 PM.

  9. #49
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    There is quite a significant difference actually. Original images are of different resolution so of course it shouldn't look exactly the same, but this is still suspicious.

    Your image


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    Last edited by Sove92; 02-23-2015 at 07:04 PM.

  10. #50
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    Kyan Ashton
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    As I said before, his DOES display more digits on his duty status box, whereas mine merely had a few minutes. If that affects the brightness, I do not know. The bright boxes themselves are of similar dimensions; this may be due to colour, or different gamma settings, but his chat log is also brighter, as well as his mini map and inventory. I'm partially willing to give him the benefit of doubt, as I don't see it as that significant a difference. You probably see different, but that's fine. I'm just providing a different viewpoint.
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