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  1. #1
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    reality_check's Avatar
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    Jesse Branford
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 80

    Bring back CROWD CONTROL!

    Does anyone remember what it was like having that mage in the group who was a complete machine with his sheeping?

    Or, inviting that Bard that was a complete pro at his lullaby timing that it made everything go 50x smoother?

    Or, that illusionist that was famed for his ability to distract a group of 7 mobs perfectly while your group could more efficiently whittle down one at a time?

    It was a very functional, fun, diverse pseudo-fourth-role that broke up the monotony of the tank-healer-dps trinity.

    Please bring it back. Sleep, Repose, and Blizzard 2 were all poorly implemented and not fun.
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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Cirra Maru
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    But this would mean people can't speed run! OMG imagine the backlash on the forums! lol
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  3. #3
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    NoloeTazier's Avatar
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    Noloe Tazier
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Not happening. Gone are the days of things like this and an Enfeeble system. It's all about fast casting, big numbers, and speed. Why sleep a group of mobs and take them down 1-by-1 when a BLM will simply Fire 2 and Flare them to death. For that to work you'd have to make the mobs dangerous, that's not happening.

    Edit: Personally I'd love for an Enfeeble system, but also an Elemental Wheel. We'll see.
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    Last edited by NoloeTazier; 02-20-2015 at 12:08 PM.
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    Yhoiryo's Avatar
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    Snowy Dreams
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Sleeping mobs in exp parties is ok, but generally once you're in lvl50 content you just blow up everything till it's dead.
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  5. #5
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    ZephyrAM's Avatar
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    Lynia Celeste
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 52
    I've always seen crowd control as a buffer that makes difficult encounters easier to handle, and thus, once your group gets stronger, you begin ignoring the CC just to see if you can handle it. This in fact is the way ARR actually works, in theory.

    The problem is that we overgear 'everything'. The day that new dungeons come out many players are already too strong for them because they've been raiding, either the CT or BCOB raids, and have a gear score at least 10 levels over the minimum for the dungeon, often two or three times that. It's not that the system isn't there, it's that it isn't necessary. The only time I see CC anymore is in the pre-50 dungeons, though even that depends a little on gear.

    They just need to make dungeons with the same ilevel difficulty as raids, and stop pushing them into the back row. Not all of them of course, but one or two honestly difficult, high tier ones would be nice.
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1556132 ~ Lynia Celeste

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    Waeksyn's Avatar
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    Waekswys Styrmwyn
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    Leviathan
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    Bard Lv 60
    Using sleep for crowd control really helps in the low level dungeons.
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    Chek's Avatar
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    Carde Graves
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    Faerie
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Spells like Freeze just seem like a total joke without a real CC need.

    I just keep wondering if we're going to get Petrify as a new spell and it'll be a CC and also a total joke.
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    Shadex De'marr
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    Seraph
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    Gladiator Lv 62
    Unfortunately Yoshi seems tickled pink with his "Kinder Kare" MMO. He has stated that he does not want to introduce CC/support because he thinks that it is far too confusing and difficult for us simple players. That aside, I would love to see it. Loved playing support and CC classes in 11 and a multitude of other MMOs. Just not this one. The Astrologian is the only possible drop of sunshine we may be able to look forward to as a 'support' class but we still have almost no idea where they are going with it. Perhaps if it goes over like gang busters and a lot people play them Yoshi will rethink his stance on CC as well.
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    Barrie Capdevila
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    Does anyone remember what it was like having that mage in the group who was a complete machine with his sheeping?

    Or, inviting that Bard that was a complete pro at his lullaby timing that it made everything go 50x smoother?

    Or, that illusionist that was famed for his ability to distract a group of 7 mobs perfectly while your group could more efficiently whittle down one at a time?

    It was a very functional, fun, diverse pseudo-fourth-role that broke up the monotony of the tank-healer-dps trinity.

    Please bring it back. Sleep, Repose, and Blizzard 2 were all poorly implemented and not fun.
    The need of CC in dungeons is so boring, and not challenging at all..
    Theres a reason trash isnt getting any attention in games anymore.
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    Wadoka's Avatar
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    Eilis Tozet
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 52
    Sheeping?

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