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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Oh only your deductive reasoning huh? The number of threads have nothing to do with it. Making generalized statements that more than half the community doesn't like the relic quest and finds it boring doesn't make it so. My experience in world is just the opposite of what is trying to be portrayed here by those of you who find it not worth your time or effort. You're more than welcome to an opinion that you find it boring but don't speak for everyone and certainly don't try and portray some statements as facts when you have none.
    Just because your experience, on your server, is at one end of the spectrum does not mean that the overall experience of the relic quest across all servers and all players has not been a negative one.

    Also, saying that created threads on this topic has nothing to do with it isn't exactly true. Obviously they were created to discuss something. Players discussing their views, pro or con, would be at the heart of the very discussion we're having.

    I also never said that I find it boring. You assumed that because I agreed with another post in this discussion.
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  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathscythe343 View Post
    I also never said that I find it boring. You assumed that because I agreed with another post in this discussion.
    Could you clarify for the community here where you are in your relic quest? I'd be interested in knowing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathscythe343 View Post
    Just because your experience, on your server, is at one end of the spectrum does not mean that the overall experience of the relic quest across all servers and all players has not been a negative one.
    It doesn't make what people are saying in this thread accurate either. They are making assumptions to support their own opinion and nothing more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathscythe343 View Post
    Also, saying that created threads on this topic has nothing to do with it isn't exactly true. Obviously they were created to discuss something. Players discussing their views, pro or con, would be at the heart of the very discussion we're having..
    This would be great if it was actually happening. People are more willing to debate opinions that find solutions. I have yet to see a single person properly articulate what they'd like to see changed outside of broad strokes smearing of the entire quest line. That's not productive.
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Could you clarify for the community here where you are in your relic quest? I'd be interested in knowing.
    Where I am in the process has no bearing on this discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathscythe343 View Post
    Where I am in the process has no bearing on this discussion.
    Consider a lot of people are debating whether it has a story line or not? Yeah, I'd say it does. How can you hope to comment on something you haven't experienced? That would literally be you making stuff up based on assumptions and hearsay.
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    This is just like the Atma complaint threads last year
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    It doesn't make what people are saying in this thread accurate either. They are making assumptions to support their own opinion and nothing more.

    This would be great if it was actually happening. People are more willing to debate opinions that find solutions. I have yet to see a single person properly articulate what they'd like to see changed outside of broad strokes smearing of the entire quest line. That's not productive.
    No, it does not make what people said in any thread discussing the relic true. One can assume though, if the majority of the responses in a particular thread are positive/negative that the overall issue is perceived as positive/negative.

    I agree that people are more willing to agrue about opinions rather than find solutions, though I recall several indirect suggestions that could possibly make the process a bit better.
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Consider a lot of people are debating whether it has a story line or not? Yeah, I'd say it does. How can you hope to comment on something you haven't experienced? That would literally be you making stuff up based on assumptions and hearsay.
    The question at hand isn't about a possible story, but rather about how boring the process is. Much of what people seem to think about it largely points to grind aspects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathscythe343 View Post
    No, it does not make what people said in any thread discussing the relic true. One can assume though, if the majority of the responses in a particular thread are positive/negative that the overall issue is perceived as positive/negative.

    I agree that people are more willing to agrue about opinions rather than find solutions, though I recall several indirect suggestions that could possibly make the process a bit better.
    This only works if the overall population has logged onto the forums, and the overall population has viewed this thread and the overall population even cared enough to comment on here in the first place. What we have wont be changing drastically any time soon, going forward SE might choose to take a different approach but thats something we will have to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    OR like with all video game forums you'll only get a small slice of the vocal minority of the game. Not statistically representative at all of true global opinion, This forum is in no way usable in that fashion in any way that could be considered statistically significant. It's a specifically biased group of people.
    Well then, like Laylatsarra and yourself said, prove it. Otherwise it is nothing less than your opinion.
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