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    Suggestion: unlimit the cross class system.

    Rather than having classes draw 10 cross skills, let them draw all cross skills, the only restrictions being what you've unlocked and how much hotbar space you have.

    For jobs keep it so they draw from just 2 classes but let them draw everything they've unlocked from those 2 classes.

    The limitation seems a bit pointless as it is, the cross class system is already designed so you can't draw anything too broken from your cross jobs. It would just be nice if we could use all the cross skills we've unlocked rather than having to substitute in and out situationally useful skills.

    Edit: since people are misunderstanding the concept here is an example.

    GLA would have access to all cross class skills. Not just 10, all of them.
    PLD would have access to all cross class skills from CNJ and MRD. Not just 5, all of them.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 02-21-2015 at 01:11 PM.

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    All that would cause is un-needed pressure to unlock the *best* skills to use for the class.

    "What? You don't have Barrage (archer lvl 38) unlocked as pug? Do you realize how much dps you're missing out on?"

    Healers are already expected to have quick-cast, all this would do is make it worse, and for every class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerowaffle View Post
    All that would cause is un-needed pressure to unlock the *best* skills to use for the class.

    "What? You don't have Barrage (archer lvl 38) unlocked as pug? Do you realize how much dps you're missing out on?"

    Healers are already expected to have quick-cast, all this would do is make it worse, and for every class.
    Barrage is not a cross-class skill to begin with, I think you're missing the point of this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    Barrage is not a cross-class skill to begin with, I think you're missing the point of this thread.
    Ah, my mistake. I read it as changing the cross-class system to all skills being a possible skill to use in a different class (all skills become cross class).

    All the same, we're limited the number of cross class skills so that we have to chose which situational skills would be most helpful to our play-style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    Barrage is not a cross-class skill to begin with, I think you're missing the point of this thread.
    He isn't missing the point. You'd still have to level every class to whatever level is the last cross class skill otherwise you'd be missing out. I'd love more freedom, but I'd rather have more skills from one class rather than everyone mixing and matching from all the classes. Allow people to pick which class they pull skills from but limit it to one or two classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryans View Post
    He isn't missing the point. You'd still have to level every class to whatever level is the last cross class skill otherwise you'd be missing out. I'd love more freedom, but I'd rather have more skills from one class rather than everyone mixing and matching from all the classes. Allow people to pick which class they pull skills from but limit it to one or two classes.
    Yes, he is, and so are you. The OP isn't suggesting that every job should be able to pick cross-class skills from all classes, they're only suggesting for all cross-class skills that are already available to them to actually be on the skillbar at the same time, rather than a maximum of the 5 most useful ones. There are no cross-class skills after level 34 anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    There are no cross-class skills after level 34 anyway.
    Yes there is. Just one though.
    Mantra from PGL - 42.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    Barrage is not a cross-class skill to begin with, I think you're missing the point of this thread.
    "For jobs keep it so they draw from just 2 classes but let them draw everything they've unlocked from those 2 classes."
    meaning give them everything for those two classes.
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    *Edited out first part because I didn't notice the first post was edited

    the only issue I would think would come from this is that not every job has the same number of cross class skills available to them(thm only gives 3, lnc only 4, and 2 of archers skills can only be used by physical classes but no physical job can cross class with it), and some are completely worthless to other jobs to begin with(raise on scholar, ruin on whm and blm, and skull sunder/savage blade on pld/war being examples)
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    Last edited by TheMax1087; 02-21-2015 at 01:33 PM.

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    stoneskin invigorate and blood for blood on warrior
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