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    Player
    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    Never relics have been better than coil drops
    Nexus was during 2.38
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    Last edited by Felis; 02-21-2015 at 04:27 PM.

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    TheRogueX's Avatar
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    Arias Lightbearer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    You know the sad part. SE takes so long to come out with the relic upgrades, I already got dreadwyrm sword and shield even with the coil RNG I got both drops. Well I already got a 135 weapon because relics came out way too late to be used in progression.

    Anyone one else disappointed? So many people already have their dreadwyrm weapon so the 135 relics should of came out much sooner.

    Personally I would of liked to get some use using fully upgraded weapon when we were progressing thru final coil, now its just go in for an hour and clear it.
    Really, Zumi, Relics should be a second, more casual path of progression for people who don't want to raid. But they're not. SE has proven time and time again that they don't know how to handle casual players on the high-end (Relic sucks, requires massive amounts of gil and tremendous time sinks, crafted items suck, require massive amounts of gil and tremendous time sinks). There really isn't any way for a non-raider to get high-end gear (which, admittedly, even the highest-tier casual gear should be second to raid gear in power), as even the non-raid gear either requires materials from raids in order to craft it (lolwtf) or insane amounts of gil and time. This really needs to be rectified, but I don't ever see SE figuring it out.
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    Last edited by TheRogueX; 02-23-2015 at 07:54 PM.

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    Rera Kando
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    Really, Zumi, Relics should be a second, more casual path of progression for people who don't want to raid. But they're not. SE has proven time and time again that they don't know how to handle casual players on the high-end (Relic sucks, requires massive amounts of gil and tremendous time sinks, crafted items suck, require massive amounts of gil and tremendous time sinks). There really isn't any way for a non-raider to get high-end gear (which, admittedly, even the highest-tier casual gear should be second to raid gear in power), as even the non-raid gear either requires materials from raids in order to craft it (lolwtf) or insane amounts of gil and time. This really needs to be rectified, but I don't ever see SE figuring it out.
    So what you're saying is that you need to put some work into obtaining high tier gear and this is somehow bad.
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    I think the relic upgrade will have something to do with spirit bonding. Look at your zodiacs. They have no spirit bond bar. All the other incarnations have had it. Plus that's about the only currently implemented mechanic that hasn't had a part in the relic line. #StockedUpOnSpiritBondPotions
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis_Nephthys View Post
    I think the relic upgrade will have something to do with spirit bonding. Look at your zodiacs. They have no spirit bond bar. All the other incarnations have had it. Plus that's about the only currently implemented mechanic that hasn't had a part in the relic line. #StockedUpOnSpiritBondPotions
    Nexus is already about "spirit bonding"
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    Player JayCommon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis_Nephthys View Post
    I think the relic upgrade will have something to do with spirit bonding. Look at your zodiacs. They have no spirit bond bar. All the other incarnations have had it. Plus that's about the only currently implemented mechanic that hasn't had a part in the relic line. #StockedUpOnSpiritBondPotions

    Maybe no spiritbond bar, but I'm pretty sure that's what the Nexus step was supposed to be. Even if the lore around it was a bit different (absorbing the souls of the fallen), it was still as close to a spiritbind step that I could envision.

    Especially if you look at the history of the weapon from Relic > Nexus. The final step was essentially spiritbinding your fully upgraded weapon.

    Nexus > Zodiac is actually a brand new weapon.

    I kind of think that we will see a repeat. What was the first thing you did after you got your initial relic? Bought some items with tomestones and upgraded. It would not surprise me in the least bit, that since Zodiac weapon is a "new weapon", that the next upgrade step will be something very similar to enhancement via Thavnairian Mist.

    Even if it doesn't follow the pattern exactly as before, I don't imagine they will introduce a super lengthy step for the final upgrade because the expansion is right around the corner.

    Or I'm just completely wrong, because this is all speculation (except for the Nexus part, I really do think that was SE's way to make us spiritbind the weapon while adding a bit of lore reasoning behind it)
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    W'fharl Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    Even if it doesn't follow the pattern exactly as before, I don't imagine they will introduce a super lengthy step for the final upgrade because the expansion is right around the corner.
    But what else will keep us busy for the extra three months after Yoshi-P announces they've pushed the expansion back until Fall?
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    Ulath Skullsplitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    ...
    Especially if you look at the history of the weapon from Relic > Nexus. The final step was essentially spiritbinding your fully upgraded weapon.

    Nexus > Zodiac is actually a brand new weapon.

    I kind of think that we will see a repeat. What was the first thing you did after you got your initial relic? Bought some items with tomestones and upgraded. It would not surprise me in the least bit, that since Zodiac weapon is a "new weapon", that the next upgrade step will be something very similar to enhancement via Thavnairian Mist.

    ...
    Dang it. Now that you mention it i bet it will use poetics. Mostly because ive been ignoring them for a few weeks since i have what i want and dont have many. Even if its not the only thing, it will probably require us to at least buy something with poetics. I should have planned ahead better and stockpiled some.
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    Mal Shadowbeard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter View Post
    Dang it. Now that you mention it i bet it will use poetics. Mostly because ive been ignoring them for a few weeks since i have what i want and dont have many. Even if its not the only thing, it will probably require us to at least buy something with poetics. I should have planned ahead better and stockpiled some.
    And that's precisely why I'm sitting on 1850 Poetics atm. On the off-chance that's the case I don't want anyone else in my FC flaunting their weapon before I get my Zodiac +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Have they confirmed that it's coming Tuesday? If not...im worried it's been pushed back
    Patch 2.51 will be released February 24th!

    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    There wasn't much info about the zodiac drops. That type of info would greatly affect world markets.
    It is as ExKage has mentioned. As a rule, we do not release relic information until patch notes have been posted.
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