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    Why play?

    Three tanks in WoD, none is picking up adds. Why? Well, one is apparently "afk tanking boss", the other just "dont like doing stuff", and the third - well, that remained a mystery. However, this attitude caused not one but two wipes, one that was just trash mob fight actually. That is, up until the point where I left. I rarely leave duty, I don't think I'd still need all the fingers on just one hand to count how many times I've done that ever since I started playing. But this damn attitude was just too much. Actually having your character /sit in front of the damn dragon, doing literally nothing?* You don't like doing stuff? Hell, the game is so dumbed down already, there's barely anything to do, ever - I guess this is the kind of player that was the reason for that...? Seriously. Just exit the game, shut down your PC/console, and go lie down. You literally won't have to do anything at all, and at least you won't aggravate others either.

    *: And that's not the only such occurrence either, I lost count of how many times I've seen healers and even DPS just idling just inside the barrier, literally standing there and doing nothing. The hell's up with that??



    SE WOULD YOU KINDLY REMOVE THIS RIDICULOUS CHARACTER LIMIT ALREADY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH INDEED.
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    One of the reasons why i’m on “adds duty” whenever i queue up for either of the Crystal Tower Raids as a Tank. No one really wants to get the adds, but everyone wants to get the boss and will fight over enmity/hate as if their life depends on it. If you want to MT, fine… You can have it. I’ll get the adds.

    I’ve seen plenty of people die (myself included when i’m not tanking) due to the fact that no tank was going after the adds.

    Another trend i started noticing is that a Tank is not being healed by his or her healers, at all… Both healers are DPSsing the entire time and no heals are given to the tank. Even if the Tank is MTing the boss.

    I’m still in the process of gearing up my White Mage with WoD gear, so i queue up as my White Mage most of the time. This week alone, i’ve been healing the MT from another alliance party for most of the runs because his/her healer didn’t cast a single cure. Due to that, my own party members died a couple of times (even our own tank).

    People might say that i should only focus on keeping my own party alive, but personally, i want to avoid a wipe if i can. I don’t really care if i don’t get any commendations because of that. Clearing the raid (smoothly) is more important for me.
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    Everyone just blames the healers lol.
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    So many times it happened that I tanked adds with my BRD or SMN (it also happened i had to take out Titan-egi for adds), (or in CT it doesn't matter if im in as tank or dps, I'm always on tower duty). As a tank I don't mind taking over adds, I actually prefer them over MT; I have a feeling that I won't be able to keep the boss on me, while I seem better with adds. (ok no I hate the ATMOS adds in CT)

    And as Aldora said I noticed also that sometimes healers don't heal their MT, I have actually no idea how people play, but in the end I try to help as best as I can depending what DPS class I am in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sayafrost View Post
    And as Aldora said I noticed also that sometimes healers don't heal their MT, I have actually no idea how people play, but in the end I try to help as best as I can depending what DPS class I am in.
    I ran the LAB → CT → WoD weekly yesterday. I ressed healers from the other Alliances 4x and tanks 6x in WoD. The other Alliance healers weren't even trying to keep their tanks alive.

    Luckily I always run this with my FC and we have an abundance of healers in it, so i told my backup healer from my FC to focus on keeping our group alive while I sometimes cross healed. At one point our FC tank needed to jump into another Alliance group to pick up the slack (surprise, surprise, the run suddenly went a lot smoother...)

    Still for the life of me I don't understand why tanks refuse to do their job or why some Healers prioritize DPS over Heals.

    If you don't plan on doing your job, roll a different class as it's obviously not where your passion lies.
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    I've seen it worse from people light farming HM Primals.
    Had a tank yesterday fight me for enmity, when I had it, they would provoke off me each time and each time I was MT on Ifrit, they would continue to do it even though my enmity output was better. At the end they laugh emoted at me and taunted me, even though I never once used Provoke on Ifrit to have enmity over them, I was simply doing as much damage as possible on WAR.


    Later on in the night, them and another healer AFK'ed at the start for three minutes straight so far, so I repositioned Ifrit right in front of them and had him kill them, the tank saw they were being attacked, so they moved out of the way after 30 seconds of this, and at that point I knew they were AFK'ing for the clear along with the other healer, but the one heal actually doing something was keeping them alive anyways. It's not like I can even get them kicked or booted from the duty in time either, it doesn't take 8 minutes to clear Ifrit HM these days and the DPS wasn't holding back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megido View Post
    haha, this guy

    There are weird people, noobs, and then there are weird noobs. Huntington you are the super rare one-person-a-forum weird noob, made HQ by using low grade materials.

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    WoD tank limit is pretty harsh for us tanks too.

    I'm usually off tanking in Cerberus and by the point where the wolf's banes pop up damage REALLY spikes up because they hit hard and if heals aren't 100% on the ball then everything will go to hell.

    Why do the limits need to be so set in stone?!
    This fight could easily have 3+ slots from dps members pool that just go to the 1st players in the que.
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    I wish I had it in me to be lazy, but I know that it won't get anything done and other people take advantage of this.

    AFKing, not taking care of adds, I haven't seen a bad case of healers yet, the worst is when I run on whm and the other healer in my alliance just stands around doing nothing well I tend to everyone. Dps are the worst, followed by tanks and lastly healers. It's so disgusting to see people do this kind of crap.

    I honestly think bots are more productive than some of the people on here.
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    I have only done WoD on my MNK because he is the one that needs the drops from there, and I always make sure to go after the adds first, so most of the time I end up tanking them.
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    was healing lab today and the other healer was a like i49 whm
    who did nothing but spam stone 2 until oom and casted cure 2 on himself twice and stone skin once
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