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  1. #11
    Player
    FaileExperiment's Avatar
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    Vash Warbreaker
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 72
    Might be referring to WoW, where mages have the ability Sheep, which turns a mob into a harmless sheep for a while.
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  2. #12
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Kisa Kisa
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Waeksyn View Post
    Using sleep for crowd control really helps in the low level dungeons.
    This. This is why both CNJ/WHM and THM/BLM have "sleep" as crowd control options, but they are only really useful in single-player, and early dungeons since you have nothing highlevel to AOE-spam.

    Once people get AOE's, the sleep/stun type of skills never get used because AOE's make them useless.

    As for how to "fix" sleep-spam-speedrun type of potential, that's why certain mobs drop keys.
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  3. #13
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    Meier's Avatar
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    Imagery Land
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    Character
    Meier Michaelis
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    Yes please. This game needs crowd control.
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  4. #14
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    kyuven's Avatar
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    Character
    Chen Kotomi
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 90
    CC makes fighting slow. Players do not like slow content. Players want the excitement.
    They already complain about the "gates" or the idea of doing trash at all. Requiring CC would slow that down even further.
    So it won't happen.
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  5. #15
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    Kidblinks's Avatar
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    Character
    Berias Emeraldian
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Crowd control is nice because it adds another layer of gameplay that usually takes skill to execute. But, it just doesn't fit in this game at all in it's current state.
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  6. #16
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    CC seems only useful in single player games anyway. Multiplayer is all about nuking things fast and hard.
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  7. #17
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    Frozenbear's Avatar
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    Ul dah
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    Character
    Frozen Bear
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50

    slow down



    Can't we start assessing when it's faster to speed pull and when it's faster to just do your job? Just because you are grinding out your relic or w/e the hell and you are sick of dungeons, doesn't make it ok to pull half the dungeon and then harass people when they cant keep up. I'm tired of watching bored, pissy tanks que up with a friend healing for them, and then making everyone else uncomfortable with their drama. If you are tired of grinding, then go take a break, stop lashing out at the people around you. inb4 git gud, i keep up just fine, im sick of watching other people be abusive/abused.
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  8. #18
    Player
    Delorean's Avatar
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    Character
    Altani Dotharl
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    i will never understand how people can say speed run is boring but designing a dungeon that will take 4x longer to complete is suddenly exciting

    it's like yeah i played tales of symphonia on mania wearing lloyd's wooden swords so i could get that special title because i was bored but i think i would have stopped playing the game and it definitely would not be my favorite game of all time if that was the way tales studio intended for players to experience the game
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    Last edited by Delorean; 02-21-2015 at 02:36 AM.

  9. #19
    Player
    Magis's Avatar
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    Character
    Magis Luagis
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    CC seems only useful in single player games anyway. Multiplayer is all about nuking things fast and hard.
    That was never the case when I played WoW or FFXI. Guess things changed when I took a hiatus from MMOs in 2008. Not CCing was punishable by death, or at least a very bad time.
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Almalexia Indoril
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    There's no crowd control more effective than KO. Q('-'Q)
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