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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Alright, given that I agree there's no need for an entire alliance to handle chains, where does any bit of logic in debating the idea of additional numbers for a task that only takes 2 even come from? I took a statement - not even a completely invalid one - and reworded it to support my original statement. Word play, and that's it. A play on words and nothing more. (<-- See what I did there?)

    Also, while I do debate the idea that sending more than the established minimum in is any faster than sending all DPS in, I said in the beginning that it's not a matter of "All DPS In" doesn't work. It's impractical, but clearly it works. Let's face it, the mechanics aren't so tight that it requires one singular method to win. However, I'm pretty resolute in saying that all DPS in is impractical. WORKS, but impractical.
    Backpeddling is your preferred tactic.
    Once you master it, maybe you'll stop making half-baked topics entirely.
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  2. #82
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    And completely not getting anything I say is yours. Considering you've shown clear mastery of it, I'd say that makes going out of your way to post behind me is rather pointless, no?

    You say I backpedaled, but I never disagreed with the statement I reworded to support my own. That was clearly stated. Nor did I ever say "All DPS In" doesn't work. I did however point out the fact that while it's "faster" (again, I personally disagree), it's impractical given that lower numbers of skilled DPS can get the job done all the same. This was also previously stated. The caveat there is "skilled DPS" and we all know WoD can be a mixed bag. No need to create or rely on overkill tactics to compensate for lackluster player ability, I say. If you disagree, that's fine. My statement remains the same.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    And completely not getting anything I say is yours. Considering you've shown clear mastery of it, I'd say that makes going out of your way to post behind me is rather pointless, no?

    You say I backpedaled, but I never disagreed with the statement I reworded to support my own. That was clearly stated. Nor did I ever say "All DPS In" doesn't work. I did however point out the fact that while it's "faster" (again, I personally disagree), it's impractical given that lower numbers of skilled DPS can get the job done all the same. This was also previously stated. The caveat there is "skilled DPS" and we all know WoD can be a mixed bag. No need to create or rely on overkill tactics to compensate for lackluster player ability, I say. If you disagree, that's fine. My statement remains the same.
    That's a lot of words to express a simple sentiment:
    You're right; I'm wrong
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  4. #84
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    Without having bothered to read whatever it is you just replied with (meaning, I opened the topic and immediately just went to "Reply to Thread") I just want to point out that my last post here before your most recent one was exactly seven days ago.

    Clearly, you need something better to do, man. This wasn't even on the first page anymore.
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    I prefer the A B C method. Just because I always see it beeing used and I think it's good to have one preferred way of doing the mechanic in contrast to ppl argueing/disagreeing over what would save 1 Minute over a 30 Minute+ run and eventually eff it up.

    Couldn't care less if one or the other method is slightly safer or faster, key is having a established method that a group of 24 random players can work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    I prefer the A B C method. Just because I always see it beeing used and I think it's good to have one preferred way of doing the mechanic in contrast to ppl argueing/disagreeing over what would save 1 Minute over a 30 Minute+ run and eventually eff it up.

    Couldn't care less if one or the other method is slightly safer or faster, key is having a established method that a group of 24 random players can work with.
    Do you still get parties in your data center that use ABC? It's been a long time since I seen it done that way.
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    Is this a rethorical question? 'Cause its answered in the part you quoted: "I always see it beeing used " yes, it's A-B-C each and every time I do WoD.

    Given I run it only 2 times a week tops, that may not happen every time but that doesn't take away from the sentiment:
    I think it's a good thing to have a strat you can agree on with 24 random players.
    If on your Datacenter its the "all DPS in" that everyone agrees on, its also fine.

    Bad thing is flame war on how to do it, or everyone assuming a different default strat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Without having bothered to read whatever it is you just replied with (meaning, I opened the topic and immediately just went to "Reply to Thread") I just want to point out that my last post here before your most recent one was exactly seven days ago.

    Clearly, you need something better to do, man. This wasn't even on the first page anymore.
    I check replies by searching by My Posts.
    You're always good for a laugh. :3 Particularly enjoy how you ignore any post of mine that unarguably thrashes any point you're trying to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    Is this a rethorical question? 'Cause its answered in the part you quoted: "I always see it beeing used " yes, it's A-B-C each and every time I do WoD.
    You are talking to someone from primal data center, home to such laughs such as tanking bone dragon north. It doesn't surprise me that superior strats are alien to them.
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    well one + to sending all DPS in is the caster Limit Break. it won't be ready on the first entry, but it will be on the second entry. if you can get at least 2 casters from separate alliances, those walls die super super fast.
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