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  1. #61
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    As someone who fantasia's back and forth between genders frequently because of glamour and looks, gender restrictions on clothing are so frustrating. They give us the power to change literally everything about our characters whenever we choose (to pay), but then punish us for making that decision by making so many items inaccessible to male characters.

    I feel like the mindset behind this is always "Oh, not that many males would want to wear something like so-and-so so it's not worth the resources." Even skipping over the fact that Square seriously has a poor track record of guessing what actual males will and will not want to wear in their games (look at all that bulky, hideous armor that guys are glamoring out of left and right, lol), that mindset totally ignores the decent percentage of girls like me who like to play male characters. "Adorable" and "sexy" gear for females is often designed with the idea that male players will be using those female characters and appreciate the fanservice. God forbid Square admit that girls even play male characters and might also want to make their characters look cute or fanservice-y. (Or that guys themselves might want to make such characters too!)
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    Last edited by sarehptar; 02-20-2015 at 02:39 AM.

  2. #62
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    At this point all I want is SE being honest and just telling us why females have the right to get +5 gender locked gear while all male locked gear have female equivalent gear.

    What is the reason for privileging female characters like this? The beach outfits they added back then have different sets for male and female but they both stay very revealing and lookalike despite being gender locked.

    Make a male version of the bunny outfit that's as simple as that and I honestly don't understand why they haven't done it to release them at the same time.

    If they can take the time and resources to remodel Setzer's outfit to fit female, then they can do it for male too with that bunny set, otherwise it's pure and unjustified favoritism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meier View Post
    But then you'd have ladies probably wanting that too...I dunno. :/ .
    But maybe for once the female character could be left out on one outfit ever.
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    Last edited by Ymal; 02-20-2015 at 02:46 AM.

  3. #63
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    I dunno with this one. Seems like they can't win for losing.

    On one hand I would say..at least give the guys a male version of the bunny outfit, like: http://i.imgur.com/JooNAFG.jpg

    But then you'd have ladies probably wanting that too...I dunno. :/ Then us ladies would have two outfits and guys would only have one.

    I kinda agree with Namasu, yanno... The current outfit is not designed towards unisex because it accentuates curves when males do not have the same curves. THEN you could get into different body types blah blah...

    But I do think the guys deserve some kinda bunny outfit. If they wanted a sexy one I am sure SE could design one like how they gave the males a bikini lol.
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  4. #64
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    I honestly want to ask a single question to all of those who support this: Do you think this will even be used by alot of people to justify making them unisex across the board?

    I played an MMO that pretty much also catered alot to female characters in terms of armor...and only an absolute few times have I seen male toons even WEAR those armors seriously rather than a quick troll moment, what makes this any different that a big chunk of the playerbase will say "Thank You" rather than "Oh god why?"

    I understand the intent, I seriously do, but I think that this...is just pretty damn useless. When men usually find themselves in women's attire, it's mainly meant to be funny and nothing else, and you can still see that plenty of people still aren't ready for Drag Queens to begin with. Let's not even mention the people who would possibly do it just to troll and hug your character to bask in it(again, Camera Control isn't saving anything if starts hugging your character for maximum awkwardness)...

    Virtually, I'm only opposed to this idea since only a very small portion of the playerbase will even CARE about such options, let alone use it seriously.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymal View Post
    But maybe for once the female character could be left out on one outfit ever.
    This thread title is literally called "Stop FFXIV gender Inequality"

    Leaving a gender out is counter-productive and hypocritical. It is either have one for both, or none. Not "leave one out for once"
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  6. #66
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    There are some male exclusive looks that I would love to have on my tomboy female Highlander Hyur. Those looks do still have an equivalent female outfit so I grumble but live with it... It's like Hempen Camise different for every race, at least make it available, even if its different...
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  7. #67
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    I'd be more than happy if they definitely got ride of gender inequality like they did for gear set like the beach set I talked about, I just said that because so far SE has gave no answer (as far as i know) despite the many threads made on the subject, so i'm just saying if nothing about it is going to change it would be nice that maybe for once a special glamour could be made for male and male only. In this community it seems completely normal to most people that because you prefer/want to play as a male you miss out some stuff but if it's mentioned it could be happening to female it seem impossible for it to happen.

    tldr i also wish for equality in gear but with se i'm not expecting any changes despite how much i want it to happen

    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    i seen a guy @ Mor Dhona once in what appeared to be a dress and halter top, scarred the heck out of me
    Some of this game content might not be for you then I fear :x never ever do one of the moogle mail quest, your heart might just give out I think.

    In other notes this thread just make me want to redo some of my glamours to more skimpy outfit and skirts
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    Last edited by Ymal; 02-20-2015 at 03:25 AM.

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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    The only thing can we do for now its to lobby, lets hold civil discussion where we lobby for the option to have the same amount of outfits as the females. I will be honest, I do not like the idea of a dress on my characters, but others might so they should be allowed to try it on.

    Another patch is going to hit in few days and we already have a difference between males and females. In Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, being a male avatar means you are the lesser of the two. This is the Elin BS again, anyone who played TERA knows what I am talking about. It started with Elin getting some outfits, then only Elin got new outfits, Elin only got new emotes and Elin was the only race to be able to unlock a new class. Now we are seeing a trend where female avatars can equip shared gear with males and have access to more outfits exclusive for females. If this continues, 3.0 will bring in more differences between males and females, more hairstyle for females, heck lets give female new emotes aswelll.. after all its only a game, right?

    I fear for the future of this game, if this continues.
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  9. #69
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    For the record: I support males getting the same amount of options available to them for glamour purposes. The thing is, we all know SE is doesn't like to put in time to design two totally different models for male and females on the same set.
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    i seen a guy @ Mor Dhona once in what appeared to be a dress and halter top, scarred the heck out of me
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