Seriously SE???

[Zumi]

Vs COP which i believe had every mission and story on it from day one.

CoP did not have all story missions out on day 1, they had the first 2 chapters out of 8 total. The rest were added in subsequent patches, the final story line mission was added over a year later. CoP had no new level cap, no new jobs, just new areas and story missions and a handfull new new items mostly lower lvl items for CoP level capped areas. So we are actually getting a lot more in Heavensward, with a new race, 3 new jobs, and storyline missions, new areas and flying mounts.

[Warlyx]

CoP did not have all story missions out on day 1, they had the first 2 chapters out of 8 total. The rest were added in subsequent patches, the final story line mission was added over a year later. CoP had no new level cap, no new jobs, just new areas and story missions and a handfull new new items mostly lower lvl items for CoP level capped areas. So we are actually getting a lot more in Heavensward, with a new race, 3 new jobs, and storyline missions, new areas and flying mounts.

still CoP is one the best expansions i played across lots of mmorpgs :3

[Zenaku]

CoP did not have all story missions out on day 1, they had the first 2 chapters out of 8 total. The rest were added in subsequent patches, the final story line mission was added over a year later. CoP had no new level cap, no new jobs, just new areas and story missions and a handfull new new items mostly lower lvl items for CoP level capped areas. So we are actually getting a lot more in Heavensward, with a new race, 3 new jobs, and storyline missions, new areas and flying mounts.

Can you really call that content tho? You can call the new race a reskin elezen seeing how there part elf. Also i bet the storyline you can get done within few hours of release. Getting 60 would take no time at all i just hope the quality of the storyline and raids are there like most packs of FFXI. It seem by making ffxiv more casual they lose a lot of quality where if you have a good party you can win any new raids in a short time. At least this time the new raid have easy/hard modes here hoping the hard mode is really hard and not somewhat hard.

[Zumi]

Can you really call that content tho?

Way more content in Heavensward then CoP had. My static group for FFXI cleared all the CoP missions on the first day in about 4 hours, 1 shotting all the fights due to FFXI having a low skill ceiling. We found it took much longer to clear final coil then CoP for sure. 4 hours we were done with CoP had to wait another month or 2 for the next patch which always added a few new story missions and fights which took around 2-4 hours each time. CoP had no new level cap or jobs we already had everything to 75 so that gave us nothing to level up. CoP was more a story pack then anything. But with FFXIV Yoshi P said we are getting the same amount of story that was in 2.0 launch which was really long series of quest. In addition we get to level 10 more levels on all our old jobs and crafts, and do 1 to 60 on 3 new jobs that is a lot more content in addition to new raid and dungeons.

[Tiggy]

Way more content in Heavensward then CoP had. My static group for FFXI cleared all the CoP missions on the first day in about 4 hours, 1 shotting all the fights due to FFXI having a low skill ceiling.

That's not exactly saying much since barely any of the overall CoP plot was available on expansion launch day. The CoP story was dolled out via patch for a long time.

[Lamentations]

[QUOTE=Zumi;2788909]Way more content in Heavensward then CoP had. My static group for FFXI cleared all the CoP missions on the first day in about 4 hours

Sigh, this is nothing but sheer fantasy, and people who never played xi, or played it after the CoP nerfs will buy it, I played it for 8 and a half years.

"No-one" ever cleared CoP in 1 day much less 4 hours, Se published a statement at one point that CoP crags were nerfed because according to their best estimates some 14% of all xi players had ever cleared the promyvion content.

When the crag clears were completed by groups before they were nerfed, they would simply refuse to help anyone else do it ever again, that's how hard the content was before nerfs, the final boss fight was blasted for "artificial" difficulty in thread after thread raging on the subject.

While you may convince people xi was a walk in the park, I know better.