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    Very excited.. Y'shtola in Dissidia!

    Sooooo excited! SE this better not be arcade only japan only! If it is, my anger for you will be renewed! Hope this comes to PS4 and PC. So ready for this to move from handheld to console! What are everyones thoughts on the new dissidia? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPrXNBevqFk
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    wonder who the evil representation of FFXIV will be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pterois View Post
    wonder who the evil representation of FFXIV will be?
    Nael deus Darnus would be an interesting choice. There's a bit of a shortage of characters of "that" type.
    Granted the first Dissidia had the amusing situation of having more default female villains than heroes, with Cloud of Darkness and Ultimecia on the evil side and only Terra on the good side. Shantotto was unlockable for the good side, ostensibly...but still she always felt kinda..antagonistic.
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    I'm feeling like this guys right here >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy8WNQkCjFQ
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    I'd much rather have Yda... but oh well. I'm just happy about a new Dissidia. I thought it was going to die off as a series.
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    I dunno, i'm not feeling it
    You have main characters or important characters from every series I dont think Y'shtola really fits, regardless of her being stuck in Theatrhythm. Don't get me wrong Y'shtola is great and everything but I feel she doesn't represent FFXIV and its players very well. The only thing she has going for her is the fact that she is a Female Miqo'te which atm is the most used race/gender in the game. I feel they only stuck Y'shtola there as Miqo'te fanservice, like they do for a lot of FFXIV promotional artworks or concepts, there is almost always a miqo'te in the center of the picture, larger than anyone else and always the focus point.

    In my opinion. I would much rather have Meteor "AKA Derplander" as the FFXIV representation.
    It would have been the perfect chance for SE to show off dragoon derplander/Marauder and even young Archer in action. When I think FFXIV I always think this guy and I feel he represents all the players not just the game itself.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl View Post
    snip
    Which is probably exactly why they don't use him. You can't exactly give a solid persona to the character, and all things considered, most people wouldn't even really understand why he's there... heck, we don't even have a solid reason why he's being shown in FFXIV lol. Besides, Dissidia is all about the fan service of showcasing famous characters who have ties to the game and their stories. It's never been about representing the players of the game... I mean, Shantoto, Kefka, Cloud, Terra, Zidane, Tidus, Yuna, etc. are all established characters.

    Why Y'shtola? No idea. Perhaps they just wanted a recognizable caster on the good side (of which there aren't many). Perhaps they ran a poll in Japan about popular characters and she topped out, at least maybe as far as caster types are concerned, which is not surprising given her only competition is Papalymo... and female characters are generally going to win out on popularity in video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pterois View Post
    wonder who the evil representation of FFXIV will be?
    My guess is this guy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl View Post
    Y'shtola and miqou'tes
    and dis guy


    I kinda agree and disagree on several points. Miqou'te seems to be a FFXIV thing in the point that it's such a popular (and most popular) race to play... statistically, that would mean the Miqou'te would be an ideal candidate for catching people's eyes.

    I'm not digging Yshtola being that representative for all of XIV, either, though. I haven't played 1.0 (my comp would probably burst into flames, from what I've heard of it's rather hardcore reqs to play), but I DO somehow relate more to that guy - regardless that I've only seen him in 1.0 youtube vids/Heavensward promo/2.0's Calamity opening vid trailer. He seems to be sitting in what would be the player's position - so looking from the adventurer's (ours) standpoint... rather than Y'shtola, whom is moreso on the support/sideline of the game's story. I don't feel she plays a huge role either - nothing more than any of the other scions. If anything, even Thancred might stand out more (more obvious/recognizable/standout character traits.... and so easy to poke fun at >_>).

    On the other side, though.... the guy is not in FFXIV (that I know of). He's in the opening movie as a gateway movie from 1.0 to 2.0, but before I realized he was also referenced in 1.0, I had no idea who the hell he was - and I still kind of don't. Does he even have a name? o_o; I don't even know if he even played a part in 1.0 (as I never had a reason or need to really look him up - only seen him vid trailers like the one that pretty much outlines Midgardsormer's fight and he has a vision of it). o_O So if a good chunk of players don't even know who this is other than some random guy in the opening movie, he's probably been forgotten or placed in the "meh, random person" bag and dismissed by a good chunk of the playerbase. That doesn't make good for representation. :\ Only faces that either stand out, or that everyone recognizes, would. Technically, Y'shtola does both. Everyone that plays the game knows who she is, and anyone who hasn't is going to go "OMGKITTY". But yeah. Just from what I've seen alone, the guy seems more like "one of us adventurers" than a support character - when adventurers (the players) are the main characters.

    So... I agree and disagree o.o The guy is a better but not a good representative of FFXIV, though Y'shtola is a better but not a good rep of FFXIV o_oa .....
    ..... *breaks brain*
    I don't have a suggestion on who would be better, though.

    Though, playing badass gunner Merlwyb would be fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    Does he even have a name?
    It is theorized that his name is actually "Meteor" .

    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    On the other side, though.... the guy is not in FFXIV (that I know of). He's in the opening movie as a gateway movie from 1.0 to 2.0, but before I realized he was also referenced in 1.0, I had no idea who the hell he was - and I still kind of don't. Does he even have a name? o_o; I don't even know if he even played a part in 1.0 (as I never had a reason or need to really look him up - only seen him vid trailers like the one that pretty much outlines Midgardsormer's fight and he has a vision of it).
    Before Dissidia the Characters Warrior of Light(FF1) and Onion Knight(FF3) were underdeveloped characters just like Meteor"Derplander", Characters just there in their own games without a personality other than what the player makes for them. Onion Knight even lost his own game when the FF3 remake came out to be replaced by Luneth. (Although the 4 Onion Knights in FF3(nes) actually do talk, but they usually talk as a group instead of one person)

    However unlike Warrior of Light(FF1) and Onion Knight(FF3), Meteor represents us, the players, and the Warriors of light of Final Fantasy XIV. Meteor has That character you see in the 1.0 CG, the ARR CG, the Heavensward CG, and many offical artworks is the personification of us And not only that, He actually has a bit of his own lore that gives him a bit of personality. (Click the link its explained by Koji Fox) .
    I would rather have the walking persona of all of our characters rather than a random Y'shtola.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    So if a good chunk of players don't even know who this is other than some random guy in the opening movie, he's probably been forgotten or placed in the "meh, random person" bag and dismissed by a good chunk of the playerbase. That doesn't make good for representation. :\ Only faces that either stand out, or that everyone recognizes, would. Technically, Y'shtola does both. Everyone that plays the game knows who she is, and anyone who hasn't is going to go "OMGKITTY".
    This is just my own opinion, i'm sure Y'shtola is very popular in japan(probably more because she is a catgirl over her personality, background history, and lore) which was probably why she was picked to represent FFXIV. SE is usually like that when picking characters for their spin offs, Popularity and fanservice over Lore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    Though, playing badass gunner Merlwyb would be fun
    I agree, but Roegadyn are not very Popular
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl View Post
    quicksnip
    Argh, lost my response post on submit, somehow.
    Unwanting to re-type everything I replied with, here's the shortened version o.x

    Thanks for the link and info! My new derplander curiousity will be sated when I get home to read it all xD
    With that fact (as a representation of 'us' as the adventurers/main characters) I have to agree more with you.
    Unfortunately, he still isn't a widelt recognizable face/character - or have the 'ermagherd kertty' factor that I'm sure SE is willing to use to grab newbies with x.x
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