Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
That is such a false misrepresentation. First of all PF = Pseudo-Farm at best, I've seen so call farm parties with so called top players, at least in their own words, fail and wipe over and over and then get into a pissing match. If you want to farm, get your static together and farm, but do not expect the PF to magically supply you 7 other players. If you are using the PF, you are begging for others to assist you and unreasonable requires simply can not be met.*

The thread was never a bout "nobody helps noobs", but rather it is about "no noobs wanted" and that is not acceptable. The OP started out on a neutral stance, but by the 3rd post, it betrayed the OP's real intent with the "stink cloud". Stop hating on the noobs. The unspoken rudeness is why people think it is ok ot hate on the noobs.
Again. Kicking someone from a party finder is not noob hate. The entire point of the op was people being rude by joining party finders that are obviously not aimed at them. If a pf says lala only and your not a lala, then that pf isn't for you. If it's ilvl 110 minimum pf and you i90 smn, that doesn't mean "hey ill put on my 130 dex accessories and join up on smn!". That pf isn't for your smn. If I make a pf with the only open slot is a healer and you wanna dps, don't join as healer then swap to dps. If a pf is asking for highly expert performance and you've never set foot in the fight, it's not for you. Disagreeing with the rules the leader makes doesn't matter. If pf says I get ALL the loot, then don't join it if you plan on lotting. If their pf rules are really stupid they will figure it out when no one ever joins.

If you think someone's pf criteria are dumb or unfair then DON'T JOIN IT. this has NOTHING to do with being noob hate.

Like that post pages ago when someone joined ifrit ex pf and didn't have it unlocked, but wasted 7 people's time until they figured out he hadn't beaten titan yet and got kicked. That's not noob hate. He joined a pf and didn't want to go along with the PF leaders purpose. That's frigging ridiculous. Don't be that guy. That's what this thread was about before everyone started making it some affront on newbies. It's not. But everyone would rather trot out newbs and learning party struggles as a red herring than just acknowledge "yeah joining a pf with deceitful intent to dodge the pf criteria is kinda messed up. They should just pm the leader 1st"