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    Inflating my expectations to be shot down for "FC/Airship Crafting" In Heavensward...

    I've always wondered about the idea of group or cooperative crafting, espesically since they tossed out the idea of "FC Crafting" for the upcoming expansion. Maybe it'll be something incredibly halfassed like PvP, or given it's own identity and context just like crafting compared to PvE.



    Green chicken boosts CP by 10%

    So, cooperative/party crafting. What are your thoughts on it? Personally, I think it has very great potential for FCs or people who have connections ingame if it's pulled off properly. Maybe the entire party would share the same progress, quality, condition and durability statistics of the craft, but have their own individual CP pools and buffs to draw upon,

    Another think I could see working is using the same shared statistics above, including CP and buffs, but disabling cross skills and no particular order to who does what step (having further emphasis on communication on what to do each step). That way, you could have someone that's a CUL for SHII and HT, an ALC for CZ and TotT whenever good comes up, and an ARM to meet huge progress requirements.

    The downside to this? Well one thing I can immediately call off the top of my head is the requirement of having those people you know you can trust, and the end-game content such as coil is already revolving around this. Though this is sort of a "FC crafting" thing to begin with so you should know some people. On the other hand, it could allow for the possibility of hiring or commissioning well-known crafters on your server to help with those crafts specifically, provided they are reputable and can be trusted.

    Anyone else want to add to the absurdly high expectations that may be potentially half assed or have inputs about the eventual introduction of FC/airship crafting?
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    it will in all likelihood be something as simple as needing a certain amount of mats to finish a project.

    the number specified by the fact its an fc thing.. so like 1000 hq this 500 hq that and so on. I very much doubt it will be anything like what you describe.

    the amount of mats needed will be staggering for any 1 person but combined across maybe 20-40 people will not be too bad, obviously more taking part the better.

    downside to this, mats will get super scarce and prices will skyrocket driving everything up in value. assuming they use the every day common mats we already have in game.


    the real question is what will the airship allow us to do that is of any real benefit.?? reduce teleport costs or something.??
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    Quote Originally Posted by chidarake View Post
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    Well we'd have to consider what a FC is for right now. It's mostly just a communal group for multiple purposes, and you don't really need any more than 8 people (a typical static) for it to function well as far as getting GC points is concerned. That being said though, it'd be incredibly unusual if they try to demand something that would require 40 people, unless there were say, differing schematics for different sizes/designs of airships.


    The purpose of airships is also kinda upthere. Me and some friends thought it would serve sort of like a multi-passenger air mount to travel to areas or raids, much like the flying mounts that are being introduced. Either that, or just a flying housing gimmick. It's certainly too big to keep around the current residential areas, that's for sure.
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    I'd be happy if it was set up like the Ixali quests. Go and find strange/rare matts. Do tricky synths. Interesting constraints, buffs or debuffs, like the ixali ones or even more intricate! Each person could do X number a day. And every time one got done it'd up the progress bar. If there is a plot line that goes along with building it, like the ixali dailies! Zomg.

    I like OPs idea of team synths.

    Hope multiple classes are able to help out. Rare matts needed to build the ship drop in dungeons. Rare unspoiled nodes too.

    It'd be cool if there was a system for people in the fc to stock those matts in a special chest. And then crafters could only use what's stocked in the chest. Maybe the chest needs to battle harden the matts so they can withstand the rigors of air storms. I like the idea of a warehouse room that you go and actually see the ship in various stages of construction.

    Quest to be a captain!

    Ships could go on ventures! Be air pirates attack/be raided!
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    In the expansion, brands of fire/earth/water/ice/wind/lightning will play a much large role. Bet on it.
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    i will be the carpenter of that PT

    wait for everyone else to finish their job..... then i hit byregot! (/pray)

    thoughts:

    - you must be in 8man crafting pt. (same fc. must share a new fc buff that boost stats. the craft is only craftable under the effect of this buff.)
    - 8man pt must unlock the new crafting recipe ( some book3?)
    - cross classes are disabled. you can only use your job skills.
    - the CP is individual.
    - ridiculous amount of steps required to finish the synth/HQ.

    GGs finding Alc/Arm.
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    I have all 8 Lucis, wanna come to Diabolos? >_^
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    I really like the idea of only being able to use the skills of the craft you are on... that really makes each person worth their salt and also happens to fit perfectly into the 8-man party set up.

    On similar topic, I think we are all forgetting one HUGE factor, the level increase. lv51-60 could change the crafting game all together, even more so for FC crafting. The difference 1-2 skill each class could yield...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Maybe it'll be something incredibly halfassed
    I think this is it right here; I would advise against anybody getting their hopes up so high (On a crafting feature, no less) after so many features over the previous patches have been hyped up, only to have been feeling poorly thought-out, lacking, or gated behind something. I'm even still extremely skeptical about the Golden Saucer and especially chocobo racing.


    I mean, sure, everyone is free to speculate to their hearts content here, but that might just breed bigger disappointment later.
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