Novus Bow? Stats?

[RinchanNau]

My highest was 539 with MNK, NIN, BRD, SMN config. Last week was around 520 with a BLM instead of SMN. This week I died and was just under 500, I think, with a DRG.

I'd had to check, but I think our SCH usually uses Eos. I can request Selene next time, maybe.. but I really don't care that much. Without a NIN I get pretty low on TP (likely run out) due to keeping all the adds dotted.

On my alt with a MNK, DRG, BRD, SMN config I was 525 this week. Dreadwyrm bow and i125 with no crafted gear.

I have no NIN + DRG either. It's always one or the other.

[Ooshima]

513 and 539, pretty high numbers without dragoon (although with ninja, which is common). In fact 539 without dragoon is pretty insane to me already.

I didn't dot all 4 adds because my ninja gives all her goad to the mnk only so I have to survive on the 2 paeons. During today's run there was DPS deaths near the end which I did not expect - that led me ran dry on TP because I cut short on the 2nd paeon as I estimated it will die soon and we don't need that much TP and I didn't want to play Paeon again cos it would die in some 5 GCDs :X

I'll see if I can do better next week then!

[RinchanNau]

539 was complete luck and probably also due to the 2nd set of adds being up for a long time or something. It's completely ridiculous if the MNK gets every Goad.

Lately I've been doing about 20 - 30s of Paeon around 2 1/2 min in and maybe 15 - 20s of BV Paeon around 5 1/2 min in. There's no reason to not give me a Goad or two for the adds with all the TP I'm handing out.

Is the MNK using fracture for ePeen runs or something? even if they were I don't see how they'd need every Goad with Paeon being played as well.

[MrYaah]

Yea for my 513 run I got every goad since it was smn blm nin bard, I popped paeon for the tanks and nin at ~2:20 minutes in after my raging strikes and internal release fell off but had to turn it off after -15 seconds because i was at something stupid like 700 tp and invigorate was coming off cd. I barely sang at all for the rest of the fight, even if it was monk nin tho I dont think I would have been particularly worse off TP wise, it probably woulda worked out better, too much tp isnt a good thing when its poorly distributed. Also I was a total asshole and didnt pop a foes near the end of the fight because I decided me getting 2 more gcds for a better parse was more important than increasing overall raid dps, obviously didn't cause any issues and I don't really feel bad about it because they're not exactly pushing record numbers themselves.

I'm thinking its entirely possible the 513 parse was inflated by smn similar to the way rinchan theorized his 540 parse was somehow inflated by summoner. I doubt the actual damage is increased, just the parsed damage. Its either that or not needing to sing + trick attack improved my damage almost as much as piercing does, or it could also be that this week I did even better with cd alignment than I did last week (I had only started working on it like 2 days before my 517 parse, so I do feel like im doing a better job at landing fully doublebuffed quad barrages every time and other gibberish)

Who really knows? All I'm pretty sure of is if I had a smn drg nin brd parse with zeta or dread bow and dreadwyrm pants I'd be able to put out crazy numbers.

[Ooshima]

539 was complete luck and probably also due to the 2nd set of adds being up for a long time or something. It's completely ridiculous if the MNK gets every Goad.

Lately I've been doing about 20 - 30s of Paeon around 2 1/2 min in and maybe 15 - 20s of BV Paeon around 5 1/2 min in. There's no reason to not give me a Goad or two for the adds with all the TP I'm handing out.

Is the MNK using fracture for ePeen runs or something? even if they were I don't see how they'd need every Goad with Paeon being played as well.

MNK is using rockbreaker during adds.

Anyways my ninja never gave me any goad during any of the turn. God knows what's she thinking. I've asked her to but she still doesn't hand me any goad and only ask me to sing more, which is fucking stupid if I have to play Paeon more than the standard Paeon timings and lengths.

Which is annoying to me (a newly formed group), because the MNK's DPS is quite wide way from the ninja and sometimes, still far from some of the benchmark numbers despite the goad love. He was only around 51X in this T10.

For me my 1st paeon is actually slightly after the 1st set of adds, after Raging Strikes has finished and waiting for BfB+Hawk+Barrage to be up, 2nd Paeon should be around the same time as yours before the 6th minute mark.

Yea for my 513 run I got every goad since it was smn blm nin bard, I popped paeon for the tanks and nin at ~2:20 minutes in after my raging strikes and internal release fell off but had to turn it off after -15 seconds because i was at something stupid like 700 tp and invigorate was coming off cd. I barely sang at all for the rest of the fight, even if it was monk nin tho I dont think I would have been particularly worse off TP wise, it probably woulda worked out better, too much tp isnt a good thing when its poorly distributed. Also I was a total asshole and didnt pop a foes near the end of the fight because I decided me getting 2 more gcds for a better parse was more important than increasing overall raid dps, obviously didn't cause any issues and I don't really feel bad about it because they're not exactly pushing record numbers themselves.

I'm thinking its entirely possible the 513 parse was inflated by smn similar to the way rinchan theorized his 540 parse was somehow inflated by summoner. I doubt the actual damage is increased, just the parsed damage. Its either that or not needing to sing + trick attack improved my damage almost as much as piercing does, or it could also be that this week I did even better with cd alignment than I did last week (I had only started working on it like 2 days before my 517 parse, so I do feel like im doing a better job at landing fully doublebuffed quad barrages every time and other gibberish)

Who really knows? All I'm pretty sure of is if I had a smn drg nin brd parse with zeta or dread bow and dreadwyrm pants I'd be able to put out crazy numbers.

How does SMN potentially inflate the numbers tho? I'm curious.

[Elkya95]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's because adds die a bit slower allowing for your dots to tick full durations. My first high was with a smn, well dead 20% of the time smn, last one now was like 503 with lag and people alive the entire time, no drg.

And not getting goads, rough... I'd be so pissed if my nin refused to goad me.

[RinchanNau]

Yea. I'm not 100% sure how, but I'm guessing it's because there is more time for my dots to tick on all 4 adds at the same time. When our caster is on SMN he'll keep all the adds dotted and when he's on BLM he probably bursts one set down before switching.

I could be completely wrong, but I do think my numbers are more likely to be higher with a SMN in t10.

Tell your NIN that you need Goad so you can Quick Nock 2 targets. It's a DPS gain when there are only two adds up. :P

[MrYaah]

Yea I'm not exactly sure but my parse with a smn does not seem to dispute the theory that t10 bard parses are higher with a smn. With any luck next week I'll get a good parse with a dragoon in the party and we can rule out personal improvement for the only 4 dps difference between best ninja and dragoon parses. Though it could have also just been a super lucky parse with the ninja, but then by the same token I thought the dragoon parse was a lucky one so I don't really know. Its really hard to draw conclusions from parses especially when you only get one a week and you may or may not play differently between parses

[Ooshima]

Tell your NIN that you need Goad so you can Quick Nock 2 targets. It's a DPS gain when there are only two adds up. :P

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Yea I'm not exactly sure but my parse with a smn does not seem to dispute the theory that t10 bard parses are higher with a smn. With any luck next week I'll get a good parse with a dragoon in the party and we can rule out personal improvement for the only 4 dps difference between best ninja and dragoon parses. Though it could have also just been a super lucky parse with the ninja, but then by the same token I thought the dragoon parse was a lucky one so I don't really know. Its really hard to draw conclusions from parses especially when you only get one a week and you may or may not play differently between parses

Actually, it is tough enough when every week the flow doesn't go too similar. This week a certain crap happened, next week DPS died, the following week healer died or something. Can't really draw a more consistent conclusion without the flow of the run being similar itself :/