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    MrYaah's Avatar
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    Mr Yaah
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahouyolo View Post
    Skillspeed is awful and you want to minimize it as much as possible, less than 400 is ideal. Also the amount of dex you gain from full i130 is beat out by both the gain of crit and det and loss of skillspeed with crafted gear. At the bare minimum you need the crafted chest because there is just no way to meet the t13 acc cap with the wod chest without sacrificing good stats on other pieces and defeating the purpose of using it. Hat, earrings, and ring are kind of superfluous but if you meld them right they're marginally better than ironworks hat and dreadwyrm jewelry without sacrificing accuracy.

    Det is 1, and I think crit and det are around .33 and .34? So even if you have 20 more dex on one set, if you have more than ~60 crit+det on another set it would be better to use it.
    Actually with the addition of the WoD chest the preferred way to get accuracy as a bard is with the crafted belt and gloves.

    This is basically the set im working with right now http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PSX4 with an effective dex of 1495.802

    vs recalculated without WoD as an option http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PSX7 with effective dex of 1494.515

    As you can see you can gain a pretty substantial amount of dex and hit acc cap and have less skillspeed if you use the WoD chest. Keep in mind this isnt a bis calculation, its just bis from the gear that I have or can easily obtain. I'm limited by the fact that I don't have dreadpants (through no fault of my own!)

    If you throw in dreadpants u get http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PSXE with 1502.279 effective dex and you're basically BiS minus the bow where the only source of improvement available is more expensive melds.
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MrYaah View Post
    If you throw in dreadpants u get http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PSXE with 1502.279 effective dex and you're basically BiS minus the bow where the only source of improvement available is more expensive melds.
    No, crafted hands and belt isn't BiS and neither is the Augmented Ironworks Ring.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Skill speed and too much of it is just awful, reason why the ironworks chest is just a NO.
    Last time i checked the Kimiru chest was still best and the pants are pretty awesome also, have not seen Demon Chest piece from wod however
    Kimiru Coat cost me around 2.5 mil, and the pants thankfully was able to have a fc member craft it for me
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    have not seen Demon Chest piece from wod however
    4 weeks it took me to see it drop. And I won it against the other bard with a roll of 42...

    Kimiru Coat cost me around 2.5 mil, and the pants thankfully was able to have a fc member craft it for me
    Pants I got the mats on my own then got it crafted for 100k by a friend of a friend.
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    Kha'tan Moapaln
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    Crit and det to what you can afford. Full the rest with acc to quickly move on to next steps. Slowly restat as needed pulling off excess acc that you don't need depending on your gearing. There are some nice i120 pieces in WoD for brds to round out a nice set especially if you can't afford the fully melded crafted pieces yet.

    Oh and skill speed is the enemy!
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    My skillspeed is 380 atm, i feel like if you reach into the 400's it would just be too much.
    My Yoichi Bow which hooray finally got a few days ago (god that last quest line sucks)
    I have 11 acc, 28 det, crit 44. Did not go full det as was too darn expensive like i mentioned but i have Kimiru pants and chest melded.
    The kimiru pants are actually very good until you can get Dreadwyrm, even then Kimiru still holds strong.
    I have CritIV, DetIV, crit3 x 2 melded atm and will probably add a det2 for the last spot. Remember the first 2 melds are 100% so may as well go with 2 crit iv's or 1 crit IV and one detIV

    As a side note, all i ever see in wod is Bard, Ninja and healer gear not once have i seen the darn Robe of Casting for my blm.... it's depressing
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    Kraktur Roronpa
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    It hurts my eyes to read so much swearing.
    I'm BLM all right, but I still don't understand why some BRD want to play like archers and avoid singing? To measure their e-penis? Probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraktur View Post
    It hurts my eyes to read so much swearing.
    I'm BLM all right, but I still don't understand why some BRD want to play like archers and avoid singing? To measure their e-penis? Probably.
    Because those are just bad players is all.

    On another note would any of you have suggestions for earrings? Still using soldiery ones for the fact that the ironworks do not seem very good at all to me
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    Mr Yaah
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    Yea I don't have that healer problem I'm rocking 6.3k hp at ilvl120 levels of mdef and def, I just pop keen flurry during earthshakers+b4b and im always fine, if its going to be up during tempest wings ill cancel it but proper timing makes it so that doesn't happen.
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    Rinchan Nau
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 70
    I used this build last night with over 700 crit: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PTBF

    I wouldn't mind adding skill speed too, but honestly, I just don't have the gil currently. This build, however, is cheap enough that I may get it for my alt too.

    Results seem positive even if not a significant leap. It's hard to tell also because I had a DRG last night.. Which 90% of the time I don't have. But I was able to surpass my previous t11 and t12 highs. I think I would have come close on t10 if I didn't die to a charge. t13 our group just had way more DPS than usual last night so I didn't even come close to my high due to so much down time.
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