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  1. #1
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    FoxyAreku's Avatar
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90

    Gear locked to specific classes

    Something I don't quite understand. Why do Dragoons, Monks, Bards, and Ninjas all get unique looking gear sets specifically for them, but yet all the healers, casters, and tanks have to share between them?

    It both makes healers, casters, and tanks feel bland aesthetically, and makes DoW DPS a bit inconvenient because they don't share gear (not counting accessories).

    I feel monks/dragoons should share strength gear and bards/ninjas should share dex gear, or every class should all get unique gear that looks different like the DoW dps do.

    Either way would be fine with me (though I am tired of my scholar and WHM looking the same and using the same stuff, at least it'd be fair either way).

    What do you think?
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    UltimateAoe2's Avatar
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    Final Spark
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90
    Then you'd probably have the same stats for two classes? There's no diversity in that, and plus, boring designs. You even stated it's boring to see your WHM/SCH looking like the same, so why should the others jobs suffer the same consequences?


    I'll admit, it's weird having WAR/PLD and SCH/WHM sharing the same gear, but still.

    -shrug-
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    MNK/NIN share same gear too you know. But yeah I'm really tired with this gear lock. Recently I got my WHM and SCH pvp gear and and I want try to dress WHM like Lolita cosplay with demon hat(lol), but it's really annoying that I should re-glamour it again when I want to use SCH that it only display ironwork gear. Seriously let this sharing gear get separated glamour please.
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    Aishwarya Vaishnavi
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    White Mage Lv 70
    What I still don't understand is why the Hempen Tunic, a level 1 shirt, is locked to Disciple of War only but it has absolutely no stats at all.
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  5. #5
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    MNK/NIN share same gear too you know.
    Only up to ilvl 100. Poetics and WoD have separate gear for monk and ninja, so it's moot.

    I want all classes to have separate gear, myself, I just know some people would argue against that because it's not convenient. I just want it to be fair. If my healers have to look the same, the DoW DPS should look the same too. But it would be preferable to just have different outfits for class diversity >_>.
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    Even when they are not sharing gear it's usually just a recolour of the same gear. I want to have gear that is distinct for the job. But seeing the 4 week long farm of WoD to get the bard chest drop myself I wouldn't envy others with that. So they need to atleast provide some alternatives for the bad RNG.
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  7. #7
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    Royin Aesir
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    Phoenix
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    A lot of classes share gear and no, a palette swap does not make it entirely new gear.

    Either way you can cast glamour so why don't you?
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    Danima Sama
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    That exactly is the problem...glamours. Im allways glamouring and it sux that both healers share the same glamour then. U are just not free to "design" ur character. One will allways look shitty (f.e. if u glamour parts of ur AF) or they just look the same.
    But there is benefit in sharing gearsets, too. U can upgrade both jobs at the same time and they are even (except some stat-/BiS optimization). U can switch between them as u wish. A BRD/NIN has to collect both sets f. e.
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  9. #9
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    Valia Rosa
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    I'm all for separate gear for the classes. We only ever got the one set (AF/Myth). Visual differences would really be a nice change in this game.

    I am also VERY supportive of changing to glamour the gear slot rather than the item itself. That way your WHM can look different than your SCH. This (and a glamour catalog of gear to select from rather than requiring that the item be owned currently) would be a major QoL change.

    In addition, I think it's really unfair that tanks have the most glamour options available, DoW second most, and DoW the least. We've been down the road before that if a tank can be decked out in mage gear ( <44 stuff is All Classes rather than DoM only) but mages can't wear even non-armored DoW items (like the tunic mentioned above), the argument that "people won't be able to tell who plays what role" doesn't hold up. :/ We also have tuxedoed snowmen... any reason using "immersion" is laughable... AND you certainly can't tell what class they are unless their weapon is out. ><
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    Dodogamo Bobogamo
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    But if you really want seperate gear, than they should make Coil with 4 treasures or maybe with tokens to get your equipement.

    The system is fine!
    1 glamour for heal, tank, mage, bard, dragoon, ninja/monk, every DoL, every DoH class.
    That are about 17 classes for glamour, isn't that enough?
    #firstworldproblems
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