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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Royin View Post
    A lot of classes share gear and no, a palette swap does not make it entirely new gear.

    Either way you can cast glamour so why don't you?
    The problem is glamors fall apart if you glamor JSE stuff over non JSE stuff. For example, my WHM AF glamored over healer gear doesn't work when I change to SCH.

    I'd also be supportive of changing the glamor system to allow job-specific glamors... but I like the OP's idea. Separate gear for tanks and healers. Having so many DPS sets also means there's less chance of healer and tank gear dropping.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Royin View Post
    A lot of classes share gear and no, a palette swap does not make it entirely new gear.

    Either way you can cast glamour so why don't you?
    Another moot point.

    Glamours don't fix the classes looking the same at all unless I glamour on the artifact gear....and that's only because white mages can't wear the ugly scholar uniform or whatever class you're doing.

    I agree with limited space but I feel that will be fixed in time.

    Also, honestly, as convenient as it is, being able to level a class then just use the same gear as another class is stupid to begin with. But that's just me coming from other MMOs, probably.

    Classes should be different and have unique outfits and gear specifically to them. :/

    Maybe they will come up with tier sets like in WoW, distributed by tokens that drop from bosses. I really hope they do that someday.
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 02-17-2015 at 11:20 AM.

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    Danima Sama
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    That exactly is the problem...glamours. Im allways glamouring and it sux that both healers share the same glamour then. U are just not free to "design" ur character. One will allways look shitty (f.e. if u glamour parts of ur AF) or they just look the same.
    But there is benefit in sharing gearsets, too. U can upgrade both jobs at the same time and they are even (except some stat-/BiS optimization). U can switch between them as u wish. A BRD/NIN has to collect both sets f. e.
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    Valia Rosa
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    I'm all for separate gear for the classes. We only ever got the one set (AF/Myth). Visual differences would really be a nice change in this game.

    I am also VERY supportive of changing to glamour the gear slot rather than the item itself. That way your WHM can look different than your SCH. This (and a glamour catalog of gear to select from rather than requiring that the item be owned currently) would be a major QoL change.

    In addition, I think it's really unfair that tanks have the most glamour options available, DoW second most, and DoW the least. We've been down the road before that if a tank can be decked out in mage gear ( <44 stuff is All Classes rather than DoM only) but mages can't wear even non-armored DoW items (like the tunic mentioned above), the argument that "people won't be able to tell who plays what role" doesn't hold up. :/ We also have tuxedoed snowmen... any reason using "immersion" is laughable... AND you certainly can't tell what class they are unless their weapon is out. ><
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    Dodogamo Bobogamo
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    Shiva
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    Warrior Lv 100
    But if you really want seperate gear, than they should make Coil with 4 treasures or maybe with tokens to get your equipement.

    The system is fine!
    1 glamour for heal, tank, mage, bard, dragoon, ninja/monk, every DoL, every DoH class.
    That are about 17 classes for glamour, isn't that enough?
    #firstworldproblems
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    Player dice137's Avatar
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    Y'raja Lhiza
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    Bard Lv 70
    Ah, I see it's this topic again. Hello, my old friend.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    As someone who has been using both tanks more and more (war main, but can/will use pld when necessary), having the same gear for both is a godsend. Sure the glamour system could be better, but I prefer to be able to use what I need to be able to complete content efficiently rather than just look good

    And, it's not like pld and war need different stats. STR specced with DPS secondary stats (LITTLE/NO PARRY) is best for both
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    Apeiron Ereytho
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 50
    A nice feature would be the option to create glamour sets, maybe with the use of grade X things when you have to change, so the market would be untouched but at least it would be possible for us to use different setups. It's a let down that with so many glamour options we are required to waste so much time in changing it when we feel like it.
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    Fran Seara
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I still miss the old Myth Days. For my Scholar/Whm I always glamore the Scholar AF gear over new Healer gear. This way my Scholar has her own look while my Whm has the new Healer gear look. I Want each job to have their own gear set(s) again. Maybe then we Smns wont be nerfed by spell speed meant for Blm.
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    Meier Michaelis
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Yes, the jobs all need their own gear. I am tired of my smn having the same bland stat/gear as blm.

    We need more stat options and SEPRATE GEAR. lol
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