Why Speed Pulls?

[Faelandaea]

so not true, I speed run df all the time but based of my judgement of the group and how they handle the first pull. also if I run expert roulette I totally expect that dungeon to go as quickly as it can because its for experts << games wording not mine.

The key phrase there is that you base it off the first pull. This makes you a good tank that makes a judgement call at the beginning.

The tank and the healer make the call (it's an equal call between how comfortable the healer is with healing and the tank is with taking the heat). What I was referring to in my post is that DF is not obligatory at all for a speed run. No one can force a tank or healer to speed run in DF, period. DPS do not have a say so, because they are not effected by the speed of the pull - all they have to do is kill everything they need to kill. So the key is to communicate between tank and healer and at least ask, "Hey are you comfortable with bigger pulls or a speed run?"

I am confident in my healing. If the tank takes a moment to ask me at the beginning, "hey can you heal bigger pulls?", not only will my answer be "Yes, let's go for it." but if the run goes without a hitch on his part that tank will DEFINITELY get a commendation from me at the end for communication, because communication is THE most important part of ANY teamwork in any MMO game.

I agree with your view on experts being meant for better players, but as healer I still very much appreciate if the tank at least clarifies how comfortable I am with the healing end before going nuts with a pull. I had a tank assume on an Ex roulette that we would carry him or something, I guess, because the moment we spawned in, even before I had a chance to cast protect, he took off without us and started pulling everything . . . and he died . . . very quickly. To add insult to injury, the guy had like 5000 HP . . . I didn't get a chance to examine him to see what gear he was wearing, but it must not have been at all up to par with Expert dungeons. I'd have examined him, but the DPS vote kicked him before I could even say "WTF?" Hehe. Now, as a cardinal rule, if a tank takes off right as we pop in and does not wait for his buffs, I just grab some popcorn and watch what happens. Most tanks I know will actually refuse to move until they have protect on. And this is a GOOD thing.

Now, on another end of a stick, if the healer or tank says that they are not comfy with speed pulls, never assume this means go total noob and pull only a couple mobs at a time. Again, communicate. There have been times where I was uncomfortable with a tank's gear and I said "Let's do a moderate pull first and see how we do, then go from there." You'd be surprised how well judgement calls can be made with good communication. And during this process I have on more than one occasion had tanks surprise me by having sup-par gear but great gameplay, using their skills and cool-downs in such a way that they were able to do the speed pulls successfully and efficiently.