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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Sousoulsu. . . That intent to discredit me, are you?

    That IS me, that was fun, and that was never attempted until then. When I did those videos, I didn't practice first, I didn't go in crunching numbers and attempting to optimize anything. I went in with the pure intent of seeing if it could be done. And it could. And I did. And it was a blast. Oh and THAT time I was the most undergeared in my party. NT Lost City was mine too.

    Now then, let's refute a few things, since we're really down to just nitpicking here:

    -Refreshing DoTs on an enemy that will die within seconds (many times)
    Did it die? Yes. Was that efficient? No. Did the party survive? Yes. Good. Job done /tossout
    -Not refreshing DoTs after they've fallen off a boss enemy until 3+GCDs later
    Was I stressing that? Nope. Not in the least. Did we win? Yes. Did the party survive? ACTUALLY. . . Our healer died at the first boss due to RL distraction, and I died at the second (both were edited, obviously). Would you have known that had I not told you? No. Does it really matter? No. /tossout
    -Using AoE skills at below the number of enemies that would make them worth using
    I wanna facepalm at this SO BAD. . . Remember, no-tank. No aggro tools. Wide Volley essentially was my aggro tool. Was I worried about how many were "worth using" the skill on? Nope. That's just garbage, honestly. Oh, but it worked, so /tossout.
    -getting hit by AoEs
    /slaphand BAD LACE! You got hit by an AoE! How dare you! #worstplayerever


    Seriously. . . /tossout
    -tank-turning (controller)
    ^ Is this even a critical point?! Why yes, I DO play on PS4. I made the entire video on my PS4. I like my PS4. It's a wonderful system isn't it? PS4!
    Also, despite prior claims, you do not keep aggro consistantly while no-tanking. It's unfeasible to expect, but you claimed you did. And you do not.
    Um. . .actually, I DIDN'T claim that. Please don't put words in my mouth. And lest we forget, Bard: No aggro tools. Also, better geared BLM and WHM in party. Didn't bother me, didn't bother them. And largely if I lost em, I either got em right back or the BLM made short work of them. Did he complain? Nope. He was along for the ride, enjoying it like we all did.

    You missed one: I don't think I played any songs there either. #badbard

    Now is this the part where you nitpick that because it was an unorthodox fun run - UNREHEARSED and UNPLANNED - we're all terrible and inefficient and bad players? Because I'll just say this: Where's YOUR video? (<---- This is rhetorical. I'm not interested in any videos you might have. But thanks for the free publicity for mine. I'll have to get around to that Stone Vigil HM one soon. . . I'll be sure to miss a few DoTs just for you <3)

    Seriously though, is your argument reduced to this now? Petty attempts to defame me? You're better than that. At least I'd like to believe so. You've had some valid points even, regardless of whether I agree or not, but this. . . this is disappointing. I'd be offended if I didn't actually find it kinda funny. So let me say this: No, I don't parse, I don't run numbers, and I don't ensure my every move and attack is an efficient, optimal action at the exact perfect moment. I'll even eat the occasional AoE (though I do get a thrill dodging those, at least when I do <3). I'll push out every last bit of DPS I can with whatever TP I have, wipe all damn day and even sacrifice myself to try and help a party member (ugh, WoD 5 Head dragon memories). I will put my party first - like it or not - and IF I'm tanking do my absolute best to hold the bloody line. My job isn't to be the best. My job is to do what's best for my party and keep them alive, and I'm damn good at that, regardless of the weapon in my hand or the role I'm playing at that given moment. And I don't need to speedrun to prove that.

    But again, thanks for the free publicity. Mind linking the Lost City vid too? I quite enjoyed that little trip down memory lane.
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    Last edited by ThirdChild_ZKI; 02-27-2015 at 05:41 PM.

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    Sousoulsu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    I can tank as a Bard - a class with no enmity tools and far less defense, and have done so MANY times. . . That's an indication I'm an EXCELLENT tank.
    Claiming that you can tank implies you can hold aggro. You could not.
    If you're referring to your ability to stay alive with aggro as a Bard, that's entirely on your healer and BLM who gave you Apocatastasis.
    ...But that's not really the point though.

    If that video is how you usually play, I can freely say that you are not what most would consider to be a good player.
    Good players find no difficulty in maintaining a high average caliber of play.
    They do not refresh dots when the target will die before they are useful.
    They do not forget to execute.
    They do not forget to use cooldowns.
    They do not move sluggishly and unoptimally (controller or no).
    They do not try to bind things then instantly break them free of it with their next GCD.
    They do not use AoE spells when it is in-optimal to use them.
    They do not find dodging highly-telegraphed AoEs(first boss) any degree of difficult.


    This is all simply a response to the post you made trying to quantify yourself as a good player. I am not making an effort to discredit you out of nowhere. You made the claim that you are a good player. I am using that video as evidence that you are not as good a player as you claimed. That is the long and short of it. No malice, no ire.

    Since I make no claim as to my own personal skill as a player, I do not feel as though a video of mine would be relevant.
    You brought your own personal skill into the discussion when it was not relevant. I do not feel off-base by citing that video as evidence to the contrary of what you claimed.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rasylia View Post
    You are not alone. But, most people a) do not use the forum b) do not like to post in these kind of topcis. Why? Sousoulso. Just an example.

    Whatever someone sais: False, incorrect, personal opinion, wrong, not true [..]
    Whatever he sais: Correct, maybe personal opinion -> STILL CORRECT, only valid opinion he accepts.

    Its like explaining someone who killed T13 that not all non-raiders are bad players. You cant. They simply do not accept the fact that there are players out there who simply like to play other parts of the game / in a different way.
    I've been entirely cordial in all of my responses. I post in a straightforward way, and back the way I think up with examples.
    You can disagree with me freely, but I have not seen any example given as to -why- you hold the opinion that you do.

    All I really see from you when you post is uncalled-for personal attacks and general rudeness.
    Since you haven't really brought any argument to the discussion from the outset, I will stop replying to you as I stopped replying to Zedd until you come up with a valid, well-thought-out argument.
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    Last edited by Sousoulsu; 02-27-2015 at 07:36 PM.