Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
If you aren't trying to push yourself, the game has literately zero challenge, you make the challenge by doing it as fast as you can.

But I guess some people are ok with half afk no challenge ezmode giv loot please. To me you couldn't be lazier.
Personally, I found my challenges and really pushed myself to learn what I'm capable of in Coil, and I truly love it. (Had I not decided to skip the relic and at least TRY raiding, I might never have grown at all). That's not to say I can't learn anything in dungeons, but I will say your "half afk no challenge ezmode" bit is kinda how speedruns end up feeling to me. To me, personally. As far as I'm concerned, I'm alone in that opinion, and ok with it.