Why Speed Pulls?

[Sousoulsu]

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it would seem to me that anything less than the answer you might want equals spam

No. Not at all. What you were doing before was unarguably spam, though. You were contributing nothing to the topic and just saying how much you hate speedrunning without giving any reasons why; and when prompted by me, you responded with vitriol.

I understand your viewpoint a bit better, even if it's just fuelled by a generally bad taste from Brayflox HM speedruns. What I have issue with now is that you seem to have a problem with people forcing speedrunning on you - but you quit dungeons when everyone but you wants to speedrun?
Wouldn't you say that's forcing your playstyle on the group?
Majority rules. If you queue into DF and do not conform to the majority party sentiment, that is rude.

Thanks for calming yourself and responding as you did.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

No. Not at all. What you were doing before was unarguably spam, though. You were contributing nothing to the topic and just saying how much you hate speedrunning without giving any reasons why; and when prompted by me, you responded with vitriol.

I understand your viewpoint a bit better, even if it's just fuelled by a generally bad taste from Brayflox HM speedruns. What I have issue with now is that you seem to have a problem with people forcing speedrunning on you - but you quit dungeons when everyone but you wants to speedrun?
Wouldn't you say that's forcing your playstyle on the group?
Majority rules. If you queue into DF and do not conform to the majority party sentiment, that is rude.

Thanks for calming yourself and responding as you did.

If I might clarify a few points:

- It certainly goes beyond Brayflox HM, especially given that it is such a popular method. That one is just a very well known case of it.
- If I implied I quit if forced to speedrun, then that was a mistake in the telling. I don't. If with friends and I know they want to, I'll try to decline before we queue, knowing that my preference is not shared by the majority of the group. If I queue DF and I really don't feel like it, I'll either just deal with it, speak up, or at the WORST, leave. And I'm free to do so at any given time. I'm well aware of this freedom and exercise it freely at my own whim.
- Choosing to leave when my preferences are not in line with the rest of the party is far from forcing my playstyle on them. Choosing to stay and disrupt any efforts to speedrun would be forcing. But I opt to bow out and let someone who would share their desire to speedrun join. . . That sounds far more diplomatic to me. I don't have to do something I don't want, and they can have a full consensus among their party (hopefully) with a different member. . . THAT sounds efficient if you ask me.
- Again, I'm aware that I have no say over what I get if I queue with randoms in DF. At the same time however, I am in no way bound to conform to majority party sentiment. Ever. Don't let yourself think otherwise, or you may very well find yourself on the losing end of that some time, and unjustly so.