Why Speed Pulls?

[CYoung187]

Blame the zodiac quest for making i110+ players runs i60 dungeons over and over again. Seeing a full i110 group with 2 blms and the tank pulling one group at a time can be a little brainnumbing. I don't mind tanks going at their own pace but the nature of the quest will bring some hostility in others.

[Ooshima]

That's because most pug healers are bad / lazy. That's also why I go into the dungeons as a healer. I expect fast runs so I do my part to achieve them. If the party is going slow and have no desire to speed run after I inquire, I leave.

Actually, because of that I choose to do by Zodiac as a BLM instead. Longer queue times probably but it isn't that bad (5-10 mins average?).

You can enter as a WHM but if you get 2 melees you are still a goner. But as long as I am a BLM, I can ensure that the run ends faster than any other options. If the tank is going to pull pack by pack then as a WHM you can't possibly have the MP to holy spam them all, but as a BLM I can Flare them all. Pug tanks are more likely to pull more packs with a BLM than without.

[Wizhard]

Why speed-pulling? Because otherwise its really really boring.
I would actually welcome something like trash from WoW BC heroics, where if you did not had CC in the group tank would just drop dead with just 1 group of mobs wailing on him.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Why speed-pulling? Because otherwise its really really boring.

Inversely, I feel the speed pulling is boring. At least when it boils down to pull the first third of enemies, then spam Flash/Overpower/enmity tools, Cure/Holy, or any of the DPS aoes ad nauseum. I mean, with all the (usually more) damaging skills/spells I may have, why limit myself down to maybe 2 or 3 purely for the sake of "speed"?

Personally, I recommend going at a decent pace that you can handle. If that's fast, good. If not, good. Don't be put in a situation where someone else is making your performance suffer for speed or efficiency.

Also, don't respond to this post, please. This is a VERY old and beaten dead horse for me, and I've just about heard it all by now. Just simply putting my 2 cents in.

[Sareal]

Blame the zodiac quest for making i110+ players runs i60 dungeons over and over again.

No, I won't. Not sure where this obsession of placing blame comes from. But no, I won't blame a feature that isn't mandatory. If we are getting them for increasing our chances at beating something harder, there are alternatives and most of all you don't need the relic to even beat the harder content in the first place. If it's for any other reason than gearing up for increasing chances of beating something harder, then it's obviously for the fun of doing it or obtaining it, for vanity and what not, in which case, speeding through the relic steps becomes unnecessary and unjustifiable of toxic behavior. I don't personally run the dungeons over and over in hopes of getting my Zodiac items, I run them once as I see fit and then I take a break because I will get bored of running it if I run it too frequently and I don't want that to happen.

[Kaiser-Ace]

I like Dungeons. I even love doing stupid things in them like DPS Tanking when I'm there for the lols. But I've got a Animus Relic to get to Zodiak level and 8 more combat classes to get to 50 AND my DoL/DoH classes to max out all before expansion. That's alot of tomes, items, gil, and EXP to grind in JUST 6-8 months. So forgive me if I wanna finish my 100 millionth speed run of Bryflox Longstom HM asap.

[Sareal]

So forgive me if I wanna finish my 100 millionth speed run of Bryflox Longstom HM asap.

Nobody is forcing you, you are forcing yourself. Makes me wonder why you even are here reading the forum when you could be farming tomes and shit in just 8 months.

[Delorean]

Don't, if you don't want to speed run, as a tank you don't have to. You are the one that sets the pace of the duty, if rest of party doesn't like it, they can leave. If anyone tries to pull extra packs into your pull, let them tank it. This is a game, play it the way YOU enjoy it, and don't let others dictate how you play.

well the party can also choose to kick you for being uncooperative

maybe it is just an anecdote but any problem i have ever had in a dungeon that was so bad that i wanted to criticize another player was of my own design. but ffxiv is an mmo, running dungeons is not hard. don't be afraid of failure to try something different. if there is something you know you cannot do but the group does wants to do it anyway, just be humble and say you are not good enough at your job to do what they are asking - that things will go better if they take them a little bit slower.

work with, not against each other

[Ruri]

After spamming the same dungeons for weeks no one wants to take it slow.

[Rasylia]

Why speed-pulling? Because otherwise its really really boring.
I would actually welcome something like trash from WoW BC heroics, where if you did not had CC in the group tank would just drop dead with just 1 group of mobs wailing on him.

Lets see.
Mass pulls:

Tank Spamming Flash/Overpower
Heal Spamming Cure/CureII
Dps spamming 1-2 kind of AOE

Medium/Small Pulls

Tank being able to use proper Rotations and Aoe
Heal being able to use SS/Adlo as dmg prevention while DPS-ing
Dps using proper Rotations and/or Aoe

EXPLAIN TO ME, how the heck Mass pulls are THE way to go if you do not want a boring playstyle?