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    Wintersandman's Avatar
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    Winter Sandman
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    Hyperion
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    I speed pull and chain pull. On experts I don't feel comfortable speed pulling so instead I chain pull. My number one focus is to maintain threat. As a VIT PLD (I learned my lesson just recently) I can't handle the threat of larger pulls when you have cracked out DPS. Or maybe it is my own paranoia but regardless there is no wasted moment in the run. Once the last mob is at 10-20% I am grabbing the next pull. I want to be as fast as possible but depending on the group make up it is much faster to single target than AoE and vice versa.
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    you want to place blame OP?
    I suppose that it is a really far fetched way of putting it.

    The truth of why people speed is this game doesn't have any crowd control mechanics.
    That's all there is in WoW, CCs, just go pvp and try to tell me you haven't ever gotten CCed. Yet people still rush through dungeons.
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    Sareal Keeper
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    I'm guessing some people just hate having to run outdated content for Alex maps and the Zodiak piece. That's the only reason I que as a tank, hoping for two non sucking aoe classes.
    Fun is overrated. I will say like what the "hardcore" people say to the "casual" people. Getting everything isn't required, you don't need that relic, just go run coil, why are you in a rush to get everything? Especially the relic when you could just run coil and get a better weapon?

    As a VIT PLD (I learned my lesson just recently) I can't handle the threat of larger pulls when you have cracked out DPS.
    I can, unless the DPS doesn't feel like leaving me 1 global cooldown ahead. It's just 1.5 sec, hell even 1 sec would be enough, at that point it isn't impatience it's a real problem IMO, 1 sec isn't that long.
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    Last edited by Sareal; 02-17-2015 at 04:31 AM.

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    Kori Fleming
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    Do what you want. No one cares.
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    I just avoid doing dngs with my War/Pld. Problem solved!
    I encounter the same problem as healer and DPS, not sure what problem that would solve.

    Do what you want. No one cares.
    They Obviously do. Lol.
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    Chida Rake
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    to op,

    why not speed run, it will test your ability to tank more so than a single pack at a time.

    yes I saw that you said you can do it but mostly prefer not too, that's fine but one pull at a time isn't very fun to me.


    I don't ask if anyone wants to speed-run anymore, I just do it, however im not a moron, I will check my healers gear level, see what dps I have in group and judge how they handle the first pull, if its smooth then I continue as normal, if its sloppy or poor or dps is slow I adjust and pull less.

    also if I see new person to duty message i'll go slower, no need to scare them off,

    but all in all I will pull as much as I know is in general safe for the average group to handle and that is in my own capability. in a game with such heavy grinding most people want to get things done quickly so they can progress, not be spending an hour in a dungeon that could of taken 15mins.
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    Last edited by chidarake; 02-17-2015 at 07:55 AM.

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    Lady Zelda
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    Leviathan
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    I meant that speeding is a thing since there isn't any real threat not to. If you think about it, the game is practically handing out gear at this point and well people are just at that point that they know the mobs aren't a threat.

    So yes they will speed.

    Right now, the gear given out weighs the dungeon.

    Just wait till the expansion, I bet people will drop speeding until well they catch up on gear again.
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    not be spending an hour in a dungeon that could of taken 15mins.
    But just how much time are we saving here? Take Brayflox for example, do you remember when people used to ask "Half pulls or full pulls?" I don't personally consider half pulls to be speed runs, just normal, cause it's a given that any most tanks can hold 6~ mobs at a time. However, full pulls? It's so over-stretched in my opinion. How much time are we really saving? I doubt we are losing 45 mins by doing half pulls over full pulls and it's that much more enjoyable (at least for me)

    Just wait till the expansion, I bet people will drop speeding until well they catch up on gear again.
    Until it starts all over again. However, I don't really consider the game handing out gear to justify people not really asking the pug groups' opinions on how they want to take it.
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    Goji Degotye
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    Botanist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Sareal View Post
    But just how much time are we saving here?
    So little you can barely notice. Hell, I had a tank pull every single group separately in Braflox HM, and I never felt it was taking that much longer than room-wide pulls.
    At the end of the day I play to have fun. If those 40 minutes I spent in a dungeon were enjoyable, who cares if I could have done it in 10, game served its purpose anyway.
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    Sareal's Avatar
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    we do it because we have to for poetics/zodiac items/whatever, not because they're fun
    I do it for poetics, zodiac and items, but especially because I find them fun, otherwise I wouldn't even bother doing them...you know why? SE pumps out content so fast that everything you worked for will be useless next content tier patch anyway.

    There's no reason to not get out of them asap.
    There is, but you probably simply refuse to see those reasons because of reasons.

    Running dungeons is boring as fuck
    Why do you play? Showing off?
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    Last edited by Sareal; 02-17-2015 at 08:24 PM.

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