Why Speed Pulls?

[Sareal]

That's because most pug healers are bad / lazy

Most pugs are bad and lazy period. The problem still rests on the fact that I am upset at people taking decisions for me (IE pulling shit onto me). It's not like I have never speed ran before, it's not like I don't still do it when asked to or encouraged to and it's not like I won't start picking up the pace after I have judged the DPS to be in a hurry or have enough DPS / brains to perform. But just as much as I wouldn't impose my slow runs on those who asks, I would love if those people wouldn't assume I want and will speed run simply because I'm wielding a Nexus.

[Noahlimits]

Most pugs are bad and lazy period. The problem still rests on the fact that I am upset at people taking decisions for me (IE pulling shit onto me). It's not like I have never speed ran before, it's not like I don't still do it when asked to or encouraged to and it's not like I won't start picking up the pace after I have judged the DPS to be in a hurry or have enough DPS / brains to perform. But just as much as I wouldn't impose my slow runs on those who asks, I would love if those people wouldn't assume I want and will speed run simply because I'm wielding a Nexus.

That's fine. And it's your right to not speed run if you don't feel like it. Just like it's my right to leave a dungeon if they aren't. No real problem, just deal with what's happening or leave imho. The game is supposed to be fun. If people are playing in a way that's making the game less enjoyable for you, take yourself out of the situation.

[Sareal]

Just like it's my right to leave a dungeon if they aren't. No real problem, just deal with what's happening or leave imho.

Oh, I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, leaving, in fact, I highly encourage it. I would rather have them leave on me, since I am not in a hurry and they are, they chose to willingly accept the wait time. The problem feels very real to me though. There isn't much else I can do but try to deal with what I am thrown with, I much prefer settling friendily than leaving, not because of my own time loss, but because the situation out of my control made me "waste their time", which is such a serious problem nowadays to waste time that they practically hold a grudge against you for not complying to their demands and then using your right to leave to get out of it all.

[Mykll]

Here is something I don't get in a way. And I know my poor brain is wired differently.

Those who love speed runs, want to get as many RNG rolls in as possible. Ok, so a dungeon with a sped run finished in 10 minutes. Or less, yes I understand that. Normal pulls, 1-2 groups at a time only, the dungeon takes 15-20 minutes. Exactly how does leaving the dungeon, taking a 30 minute hit, re-queuing, going into the BACK of the line, getting another group you have no idea will speed run or not, get you that next RNG roll faster than just sticking with the original dungeon even if it took 20 minutes?

[Noahlimits]

Here is something I don't get in a way. And I know my poor brain is wired differently.

Because trying to get that rng roll isn't the only thing we can do in game. You're acting as if for 30 minutes we can't log into the game. There's plenty of other stuff we can do in game during that period that doesn't involve duty finder. We're not really losing any time by ducking out and taking the 30 minute penalty. Especially healers and tanks which get almost instant ques after the 30 is up.

[Staris]

Yeah at my job they pay me the same if I review 10 charts or 100 a day.
Obviously I do 10 charts.

Lazybad is lazybad

[CYoung187]

Blame the zodiac quest for making i110+ players runs i60 dungeons over and over again. Seeing a full i110 group with 2 blms and the tank pulling one group at a time can be a little brainnumbing. I don't mind tanks going at their own pace but the nature of the quest will bring some hostility in others.

[Wizhard]

Why speed-pulling? Because otherwise its really really boring.
I would actually welcome something like trash from WoW BC heroics, where if you did not had CC in the group tank would just drop dead with just 1 group of mobs wailing on him.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Why speed-pulling? Because otherwise its really really boring.

Inversely, I feel the speed pulling is boring. At least when it boils down to pull the first third of enemies, then spam Flash/Overpower/enmity tools, Cure/Holy, or any of the DPS aoes ad nauseum. I mean, with all the (usually more) damaging skills/spells I may have, why limit myself down to maybe 2 or 3 purely for the sake of "speed"?

Personally, I recommend going at a decent pace that you can handle. If that's fast, good. If not, good. Don't be put in a situation where someone else is making your performance suffer for speed or efficiency.

Also, don't respond to this post, please. This is a VERY old and beaten dead horse for me, and I've just about heard it all by now. Just simply putting my 2 cents in.

[Rasylia]

Why speed-pulling? Because otherwise its really really boring.
I would actually welcome something like trash from WoW BC heroics, where if you did not had CC in the group tank would just drop dead with just 1 group of mobs wailing on him.

Lets see.
Mass pulls:

Tank Spamming Flash/Overpower
Heal Spamming Cure/CureII
Dps spamming 1-2 kind of AOE

Medium/Small Pulls

Tank being able to use proper Rotations and Aoe
Heal being able to use SS/Adlo as dmg prevention while DPS-ing
Dps using proper Rotations and/or Aoe

EXPLAIN TO ME, how the heck Mass pulls are THE way to go if you do not want a boring playstyle?