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  1. #31
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Rune Fencer!
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  2. #32
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miakisu View Post
    Oh, really? Go watch the London opening ceremony and tell me that isn't Yoshi-p and his interpreter telling me that Dark Knights aren't relying on Parrying because they have no shields.

    http://youtu.be/ETQY3OGnotA?t=43m4s
    Wait, does this mean that a Warrior is also a Parry Tank by that logic?

    He specifically said "What that would mean is rather than blocking with a shield, as you don't have a shield, it'll be more parrying and dodging". This is, mechanically, is how the Warrior Works. The Paladin's Mitigation comes from HP, Blocks, Parrys and Evasion, Warrior is HP, Parry and Evasion.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 02-16-2015 at 08:54 AM.

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Wait, does this mean that a Warrior is also a Parry Tank by that logic?

    He specifically said "What that would mean is rather than blocking with a shield, as you don't have a shield, it'll be more parrying and dodging". This is, mechanically, is how the Warrior Works. The Paladin's Mitigation comes from HP, Blocks, Parrys and Evasion, Warrior is HP, Parry and Evasion.
    It is possible Yoshi-P may be talking about the DK Tank Stance may increase DK's chances of Parry and evade chance (while maybe making it possible to parry and evade attacks that Warrior and Paladin can't Parry and evade) as part of their Tank Stance effects compared to Warrior's Tank Stance with increase HP and Healing and Paladin's Tank Stance with Damage mitigation.

    Warriors do parry but their Tank Stance focus more on being HP sponges and Paladin focus more on reducing direct damage.

    Though if ture, I wonder how they may balance DK tank stance if they make DK Tank stance give them the ability to parry and Evade attacks Paladins and Warrior can not parry and Evade.
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  4. #34
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    Sariena Adeline
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    Guys, Yoshi said he imagined Samurai to deal damage and not tank (thank god).

    I hope for Rune Fencer or Mystic Knight. Granted, I'd MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have Mystic Knight as a DPS (En-aero, en-fire etc), I could see Rune Fencer being a tank, using MP to activate cooldowns instead of TP.
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  5. #35
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    Alise Wolfe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Wait, does this mean that a Warrior is also a Parry Tank by that logic?

    He specifically said "What that would mean is rather than blocking with a shield, as you don't have a shield, it'll be more parrying and dodging". This is, mechanically, is how the Warrior Works. The Paladin's Mitigation comes from HP, Blocks, Parrys and Evasion, Warrior is HP, Parry and Evasion.
    Just because a Warrior uses these things does not mean that the Dark Knight will not. I see you mentioning parrying and evasion in both Paladin and Warrior.

    But I would point to this: Why mention these things if they were not important highlights? He's saying these things to bring it to your attention. This is why the media outlets are quoting Yoshi-P, saying it focuses on parrying and evasion.

    I've given my sources. Interpret it how you like.
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  6. #36
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    Tobias Shadowmane
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    The Evasive tank is arriving in 3.0 being DK.

    Dark knight was revealed to be the Parry/Evade tank by Yoshi-P when he revealed DK in 2014.
    But isn't Parry a non issue for tanking in 14? Otherwise you'ld think war/nin/drg would be really good at parry for damage midigation. They tried to do that parry/evade tanking thing in XI and called it Rune Fencer. Even then they had to work very hard around the fact parry was not that good a defensive stat compared to evasion and shield block.

    If anything Dark Knight will just be a Warrior with a big sword and some dark magic. Possibly more int or piety than either pld or war.
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    Last edited by Kotemon; 02-16-2015 at 10:52 AM.

  7. #37
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    Aria Jade
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    Leviathan
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    Some fun ideas i wish devs would at the very least consider looking at or researching;

    >>Engineer (gunner) will branch out into a tank class using its base automation skills into building high defensive armor that breaks over time....Dat Iron Man suit skill.

    >>Magic Tank >> low HP high MP caster that creates several barriers around the caster generating enmity and providing mitigation.

    >>Blue Mage Tank >> medium HP medium MP Caster, erects illusions of tank class enemies to your aid to generate enmity.
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  8. #38
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    Lady Zelda
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    Leviathan
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    OK DEAL WITH ME HERE. I Think I'm slightly drunk.

    Would be interesting if they brought Red Mage as a Tank. With Red Mage being able to do enfeeble spells. (As a way to defend themselves) Bring back Blink give it to red mages. Blink not only stops physical but magical as well. En-whatever sword abilities, the first boss in tam-tara deepcroft already knows enthunder, it's not like it's not in the game.

    Red Mage Tanks could essentially have a stance, that restores people's MP and increases their dps/ but also increases damage taken. Refresh stance.
    Uhm, Other Stance could be also enthunder, chance to paralyze the enemy with each swing and raises defense considerably.

    Okay.... I shrug, I could be just crazy. lol
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    Last edited by Mirakumi; 02-16-2015 at 02:49 PM.

  9. #39
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Mystic Knight maybe? I don't know.
    I feel clueless to think other tank job beside Samurai and "Knight" thingy since what I know tank job using sword and shield lol. Except SE want to make anti-mainstream job like mage
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  10. #40
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Paladin Lv 91
    I personally want to see Mystic/Rune Knight as the next tank, using a blade staff (since other swords are utilized or fit better with other classes.)

    Their general style could pull from the Dervish (real world one, not Guild Wars) since the original look of mystic knight had them wearing turbans and face covers, using a lot of elegant spinning attacks and moves which would pair perfectly with a blade staff. Take that general style and mix in magical defensive abilities and you have something that I think would be pretty awesome.

    Geographically and story wise, they could maybe be from Ala Mhigo.
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