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    Player Zaft's Avatar
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    Leo Strut
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    I assume you meant by how theres only so many ways to tank? There's more variety in how damage is dealt, rather than taken.
    Actually there can be quite a lot of variety in tanking. Just look at World of Warcraft. Each tank has its own unique flavor to how it tanks:
    • Warrior has offensive utility, high mobility and their active mitigation is entirely proactive, requiring them to anticipate damage rather than react too it.
    • Paladins have a selection of team support abilities and defensive utilities and can choose between healing their party members/selves or increasing mitigation.
    • Death Knights have great control over their own survival and have a number of low-duration, low-cooldown abilities they can use to "roll" CDs.
    • Druids take more damage, but have high evasion (upwards of 60% when their active mitigation is used) and are extremely versatile, able to use certain abilities to deal physical or magical damage as well as heal the entire raid nearly as good as an actual healer (for a limited time).
    • Monks take significantly less damage per hit, but that damage is applied to them over the next 10 seconds, but by using their active mitigation and other abilities, they can reduce or even completely clear that damage, allowing them to soak up extremely high amounts of damage and then expunge it.

    So no, there are actually many, many ways to tank. FFXIV just hasn't touched on them yet.

    Edit: Added bullets to make it easier to read.
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    Last edited by Zaft; 02-17-2015 at 06:57 PM.

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    Drakkaelus's Avatar
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    Drakkaelus Grimkaiser
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    I assume you meant by how theres only so many ways to tank? There's more variety in how damage is dealt, rather than taken.
    Is there? How many different ways can you buff yourself, slap a DoT on someone and hit them really hard?

    That's ridiculous. There's just as many ways to tank as there are to DPS. Look at Engineers and Stalkers from Wildstar, Bounty Hunters in ToR, the tanks in CoH, DCUO and Rift. There's plenty of ways to tank that don't involve shield bashing. I don't know why people act like any creative or "cool" class should be the sole domain of DPS, like they're the only ones who should be allowed to have fun. Then you wonder why there's no tanks.
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    Last edited by Drakkaelus; 02-17-2015 at 11:31 PM.

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    jomoru's Avatar
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    Arete Sophoi
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Red Mage. Let the Tears flow they are delicious.
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    Lumen Stargazer
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Red Mage (Tank) (AKA Rune Fencer)
    -Uses magical enspells on there blade for many effects.
    -Uses magical shields on themselves for deflecting/absorbing/protecting against magical attacks.
    -Weapon Rapier
    -Uses new magic "Red Magic" aka runes

    Blue Mage (DPS)
    -Learns monster magic
    -Weapon Saber
    -FF11 magic setup system

    Green Mage (Healer)
    -Uses Healing Overtime effects
    -Uses enhancements instead of DPS in their free-time.
    -Weapon Hammers
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    HakuroDK's Avatar
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    Kinnison Cooke
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    Malboro
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Dark Knight was cited as being a tank that uses dark magic. Nothing says anything about them being a Parry/Evade tank.

    That being said, it honestly depends where 4.0 takes us. If it takes us to Thavnair, we might end up getting Mystic Knights. If it takes us to Doma, we might end up getting Samurai. If we don't get access to Sharlayan before 4.0 and we get it at 4.0, we might get access to Rune Fencer from FFXI.

    It really honestly depends on where the game goes next. I mean hell, I seriously thought we were going to be getting Templar in FFXIV as our tank job for 3.0 because we were headed into Ishgard, which is a theocracy whose soldiers use spears. I never would have guessed that they would discard the "prerequisite class" system.
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    Alise Wolfe
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    Dark Knight was cited as being a tank that uses dark magic. Nothing says anything about them being a Parry/Evade tank.
    "...but it was mentioned that the job will focus on dodging and parrying to reduce damage."
    -http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/10/25/final-fantasy-xiv-unveils-dark-knight-and-more-at-london-fanfest/
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miakisu View Post
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    Yes and it turns out Joystiq is the only website and source that has stated this, yet they also have no source on that statement. No interview, no quotes, no videos. It's a blanket report.

    If you Google it, there's absolutely nothing but speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Yes and it turns out Joystiq is the only website and source that has stated this, yet they also have no source on that statement. No interview, no quotes, no videos. It's a blanket report.

    If you Google it, there's absolutely nothing but speculation.
    Oh, really? Go watch the London opening ceremony and tell me that isn't Yoshi-p and his interpreter telling me that Dark Knights aren't relying on Parrying because they have no shields.

    http://youtu.be/ETQY3OGnotA?t=43m4s
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    Deeg Astra
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    It seems they're adding jobs that fall in line with the storyline. Based on the FFXI precedent, Samurai makes sense - but don't see where the fit in the current state of the storyline (maybe we'll learn more about the Au Ra in 3.0). They made Ninja fit within the context of the story. The Crystal Tower storyline has also hinted at the Dark Knight. I think some take on the Gunblade weapon makes a lot of sense as some posters have mentioned. It would also make sense from a design perspective in the attempt to further establish FF14 as its own beast and not something to be overshadowed by FFXI.
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