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  1. #1
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    Avatar de Mission
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    Mission Lifebinder
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Surineur Lv 60

    Reward needed for Staying for the full run timer in Duty Finder

    I think a reward for staying for the full run in Duty Finder needs to be implemented. I'm tired of people leaving before full echo is even in effect.

    So my suggestion:

    Firstly, put a currency system in for staying the full length of the Duty finder timer.
    (With a special vender with cool rewards to buy from, i.e. Mounts. Costumes, pets and other cool fun stuff.)

    Secondly, to make it so people don't just enter the run and do nothing till the timer runs out. Add this is just and example, 1 coin to spend for staying the entire run, and 2-3 coins for actually beating it. That way it still encourages people to try after a couple of wipes.

    I think except for the complete elitests, this will help to stop the over abuse of Vote Abandon, that imo should never be in this game, unless someone leaves. This could also help with people joining parties in progress in case someone leaves. Give them the same rewards as if they stayed the whole time.
    (8)

  2. #2
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    Colman Meridius
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    Famfrit
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    Orfèvre Lv 60
    Why? So people should have to stay with bad groups or a group where one player is either incredibly terrible or trolling and getting everyone killed. Sometimes a group of randoms just doesn't work well together. Don't force a group to make it work for an hour, go find a group that does work. Vote abandon is hardly abused, if a majority of people want out they do not need to be penalized for doing so. There is already bonus tomes to help new people. This just seems pointless and I am not elitist in any way. I have maybe initiated a vote abandon 2-3 times since it became a thing.

    It takes team chemistry to make a duty work, sometimes it just isn't there.
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  3. #3
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    Mission Lifebinder
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    Balmung
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    Surineur Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par CYoung187 Voir le message
    Why? So people should have to stay with bad groups or a group where one player is either incredibly terrible or trolling and getting everyone killed.
    If you don't wanna stay, don't stay. But maybe this will encourage people to stay. I just get sick of people giving up before you even have full echo. So many groups, not even bad groups. Just dps isn't enough, till echo. And some fool always initials vote abandon at like 15% echo. Or leaves. This does in no way force you to stay. It just encourages you to stay and try a little team work.
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  4. #4
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    Mission Lifebinder
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    Balmung
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    Surineur Lv 60
    And hence why i said fun stuff....None of the item rewards I listed give you any kind of advantage....
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  5. #5
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    Gridania
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    Alkaid Gainsborough
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    Spriggan
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    Élémentaliste Lv 80
    Most people leave DF groups because the group lacks the basics to complete the fight. Echo only gives you more HP, DPS and Hrals. It does not change the fight mechanics. Couple that with people having access to i100+ gear you should not require full echo bonus to finish a duty.

    Titan Ex is a perfect example. Echo won't help you clear the fight if you fail to avoid WotL, Landslide, Goals etc...

    Most of us can tell after a few wipes if it is worth the effort or the time. Lastly not everyone is interested in putting 200% in content to carry people through duties.

    Party Finder is specifically for people to use for stuff like training or farming.
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  6. #6
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    Avatar de KitanaiKoneko
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    octobre 2013
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    Luise Maynard
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    Diabolos
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    Occultiste Lv 50
    Yeah, it could maybe include rewards such as:

    Advancing your progress in a quest
    Giving you a chance at rare pieces of loot
    Poetics and Soldiery
    A chance at commendations


    I think we're on to something here, good thread OP.
    (7)
    Citation Envoyé par CYoung187 Voir le message
    People may not know this, but playing the game is actually more fun then whining about it on the forums.

  7. #7
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    Sileas Goode
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    Hyperion
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    Cuisinier Lv 51
    Citation Envoyé par Mission Voir le message
    Secondly, to make it so people don't just enter the run and do nothing till the timer runs out. Add this is just and example, 1 coin to spend for staying the entire run, and 2-3 coins for actually beating it. That way it still encourages people to try after a couple of wipes.

    I think except for the complete elitests, this will help to stop the over abuse of Vote Abandon, that imo should never be in this game, unless someone leaves. This could also help with people joining parties in progress in case someone leaves. Give them the same rewards as if they stayed the whole time.
    It'll still be faster for experienced groups to just go back to echo content and farm the hell out of it. They'll gain the 'coins' faster that way than staying and helping lost causes get clears.

    I think if people keep leaving your duty finder instances, it's time to stop looking and blaming others.
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  8. #8
    Player
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    Gridania
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    Alkaid Gainsborough
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    Spriggan
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    Élémentaliste Lv 80
    In other words experienced players are to carry new players through the game?

    How will that help. Instead you'll have new players in Hugh lev gear with out a clue on how to play the end game content and we'll have more variations of threads like this complaining about how content are too difficult, contents need to be nerfed.

    Most people do not give commendations. I solo healed a nookie group in Titan HM yesterday. 3 of the 4 dps were dead and reviving them was a waste of mana. The other healer got knocked off. Only blessing was the tank and the BLM. The three of us did an 8 man fight and guess what I was blamed by these oh so nice noobs why I didn't raise or heal them and to top it off not a single commendation.

    So I'll pass on wasting my time carrying people in DF. Use PF, ask your FC, ask friends in game. Stop expecting random to do all of the work.
    (9)

  9. #9
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    octobre 2013
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    Gridania
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    So' Sanuwa
    World
    Midgardsormr
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    Élémentaliste Lv 60
    Why does this thread even exist.

    Not to be rude, but it's not the job of people who can kill content without a huge echo buff to carry people who aren't good at the game through it. To be quite frank, pretty much all of the content that has echo is old and quite easy, so you're either A) Not properly researching a fight or B) Aren't skilled enough to beat the fight properly. It all comes down to shortcomings as a player, which is your problem, and doesn't constitute a gratuitous token system as a solution.

    You just need to try, study fights more, and polish up on yourself as a character. Some would argue that the echo system, even as is, is kind of unnecessary. We don't need a token system, we need people to take fights more seriously, not faceroll through them with 50% echo. You'd be surprised how much a half hour of seriously sitting down and watching a video, and how it's relevant to your specific role, can do for you.
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  10. #10
    Player Avatar de dice137
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    aot 2013
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Y'raja Lhiza
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Barde Lv 70
    Seriously? Next thing you know, the OP will be asking for rewards to be given to players for not getting kicked in order to "promote better performance out of PuGs" or something equally wacky like that!

    Haha! But, really. No.
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