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  1. #21
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    Gardes's Avatar
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    Sileas Goode
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mission View Post
    That's another problem with this game..It relies on to many insta-kill movement mechanics. If you have a less than stellar internet connection, there's a chance you'll get hit by something if you don't plan ahead of time to move..And sometimes that doesn't work. I hope in the future they go away from some of the movement mechanics that plague alot of the current end game and add more interesting mechanics. If not at least add 2-3 more seconds to get out of them.
    I'm playing from china and I'm playing with 310+ latency towards my server and I can dodge attacks in fights like titan ex just fine. My connection can be considered WORSE than 'less than stellar' and I can play adequately, Square has designed the game to be lenient on latency that high. What makes you unable to dodge when you perceive you have performed a successful dodge is erratic latency. That is not something SE can help you with. Asking them to increase the dodge window by 2-3 seconds would alter the balance of the game for everyone that has stable latency and affect their experience of the game and what they feel about the game. Many would consider a game that is too easy not fun.
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mission View Post
    That's another problem with this game..It relies on to many insta-kill movement mechanics. If you have a less than stellar internet connection, there's a chance you'll get hit by something if you don't plan ahead of time to move..And sometimes that doesn't work. I hope in the future they go away from some of the movement mechanics that plague alot of the current end game and add more interesting mechanics. If not at least add 2-3 more seconds to get out of them.
    Another 2-3 seconds to evade every single mechanic would make the gameplay slower than dirt. ._.

    That would be terribly boring. The devs can't design the game exclusively for people with bad ping.
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  3. #23
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    Mission Lifebinder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Another 2-3 seconds to evade every single mechanic would make the gameplay slower than dirt. ._.

    That would be terribly boring. The devs can't design the game exclusively for people with bad ping.
    The avoid everything on the ground mechanic is already boring....

    Fun mechanics are interesting mechanics..like cerberus in crystal tower..to me that is a fun fight. Would probably be really fun if it was an 8 man encounter. That encounter has already proven to me that SE can make fun encounters without them having to rely only any kind of latency to do. Not to say that he is hard by any means..but...thats only because it was balanced for the 24 duty finder
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    Last edited by Mission; 02-16-2015 at 10:34 AM.

  4. #24
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    Hilde Everglade
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    More incentive to waste my time? Yes please.
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    Last edited by Zephyranthes; 02-16-2015 at 10:33 AM.

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    Shino Uesegi
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    Tonberry
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    Even with all the echo, you can't clear?
    You expect the team to waste time?

    Really now...

    Don't blame elitism.

    Blame your incompetence
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  6. #26
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    Mission's Avatar
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    Mission Lifebinder
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    Quote Originally Posted by KirakunAUS View Post
    Even with all the echo, you can't clear?
    You expect the team to waste time?

    Really now...

    Don't blame elitism.

    Blame your incompetence
    This post isn't even really about getting full echo..its about people voting abandon or leaving before you even have full echo. When the group is making progress with each pull... It's understandable if you are doing the encounter and not making any progress on any pull...but if you are..why abandon. And This is a video game..everyone is already wasting time.
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    I'm playing the game to lessen my stress level and not to waste time.

    Majority wins. Vote abandon won't push through with just a single person wanting to quit.
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  8. #28
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mission View Post
    The avoid everything on the ground mechanic is already boring....

    Fun mechanics are interesting mechanics..like cerberus in crystal tower..to me that is a fun fight. Would probably be really fun if it was an 8 man encounter. That encounter has already proven to me that SE can make fun encounters without them having to rely only any kind of latency to do. Not to say that he is hard by any means..but...thats only because it was balanced for the 24 duty finder
    Are you just going to ignore the person who said they play with 300 ping from china and have no problem? Why can they do it but others with a better connection need to be carried? Sounds like some people just don't like taking responsibility for their failures.
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  9. #29
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    Mission Lifebinder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyranthes View Post
    I'm playing the game to lessen my stress level and not to waste time.

    Majority wins. Vote abandon won't push through with just a single person wanting to quit.
    The thing is in my experience. If someone hits vote abandon..and it gets declined..that person that hit it will try half as hard if at all. So it's almost certain the reason people just agree cause most know that that one person that initiated it doesn't really want to be there...but why duty finder anyway if you are just wanna leave. There is a party finder, or guilds if you want a solid group..dont waste your time with duty finder at all if that's the case.
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  10. #30
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    Y'raja Lhiza
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mission View Post
    That's another problem with this game..It relies on to many insta-kill movement mechanics. If you have a less than stellar internet connection, there's a chance you'll get hit by something if you don't plan ahead of time to move..And sometimes that doesn't work. I hope in the future they go away from some of the movement mechanics that plague alot of the current end game and add more interesting mechanics. If not at least add 2-3 more seconds to get out of them.
    ...Welcome to MMOs and the internet in general. Gamers have been dealing with this issue for years.

    Has every single design choice that the XIV dev team as implemented been perfect? Of course not. Will needless "helping is caring~!" handout rewards fix design choices you just plain don't like and/or can't handle make things better? No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mission View Post
    The thing is in my experience. If someone hits vote abandon..and it gets declined..that person that hit it will try half as hard if at all. So it's almost certain the reason people just agree cause most know that that one person that initiated it doesn't really want to be there...but why duty finder anyway if you are just wanna leave. There is a party finder, or guilds if you want a solid group..dont waste your time with duty finder at all if that's the case.
    You could try taking your own advice instead of requesting implementation of a secondary rewards system...
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    Last edited by dice137; 02-16-2015 at 11:40 AM.

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