Bests Bows?

[QuinceTaru]

A little bit off topic, but do you just all assume Zodiacs going to 135 or did i miss a dev post or something? Cause if its confirmed then it will make my day!

[MrCookTM]

A little bit off topic, but do you just all assume Zodiacs going to 135 or did i miss a dev post or something? Cause if its confirmed then it will make my day!

I think it's the combination of yoshi stating the final zodiac stage will be the most powerful weapon in the game, us knowing the next zodiac stage will be the final one (well at least for 2.x patch cycle) and relic increasing ilvl by 10 in every stage except for novus -> nexus.

[SirTaint]

A little bit off topic, but do you just all assume Zodiacs going to 135 or did i miss a dev post or something? Cause if its confirmed then it will make my day!

Not confirmed but highly likely.

The only thing confirmed is there are 12 new ATMA to obtain....how and where is unknown.

[Ooshima]

Not confirmed but highly likely.

The only thing confirmed is there are 12 new ATMA to obtain....how and where is unknown.

Able to provide source? 12 new atmas? D:

EDIT: okay nvm, found it.

[Kuroyasha]

Able to provide source? 12 new atmas? D:

EDIT: okay nvm, found it.

This..This makes me sad. Can you link source?

[Ooshima]

This..This makes me sad. Can you link source?

It was info from data mining so I suggest you google it yourself, I don't think I can link it here.

[ServerCollaps]

12 coil bosses = 12 atmas :'D

what about that idea?

[Tex_Mex]

12 coil bosses = 12 atmas :'D

what about that idea?

Well considering that Zodiac weapons are designed for casual players (players with lots of time that are not really devoted to any end game raiding), this would not make much sense. The content will be much more time intensive and much lower difficulty than what is required in Coil. Think dungeon/fate/hunt farming. Maybe something like 12 atmas - 12 S rank hunts......... lol that would piss a lot of people off lol

[mahouyolo]

Dreadwyrm > Perfect Zodiac > Augmented Ironworks > Ironworks > Perfect Nexus > High Allagan > Diamond > etc.

Zodiac is marginally better than augmented ironworks because it has so little det and skillspeed is a dps loss, so the crit and det on relic can make up the lost weapon damage. If you aren't going to bother making your relic perfect then there is basically no reason to use it at all outside of a placeholder weapon for getting diamond, rosenbogen, or HA because it won't have those great secondary stats to put it above the other weapons in its ilvl tier.

[Buff_Archer]

There's one i110 bow not mentioned, that I think is interesting in that it's not only better than the other i110 bows (it's clearly better than Rosenbogen), it might be better than the higher ilvl 115 Diamond Bow (since 44 Crit & 22 Det vs. Acc & SS seems like it would offset the damage/dexterity difference). I'd be interested in knowing how it rates against the i120 Ironworks Magitek Bow; I'm guessing at i120 the Ironworks Bow would probably edge it out because of higher ilvl, Physical Damage, and Dex even though it loses the 44 Crit, since it has Det in addition to the other stats that are 10 ilvl higher.

Here's the weapons I'm referring to, and where I think the Birdliege fits above the higher-ilvl Diamond bow (but I don't know how to calculate how these numbers actually translate to DPS)-

i120 Ironworks Magitek Bow-Physical Dmg 49 | Auto-attack 49.65 | Delay 3.04; Dex 48 / Vit 56 / Det 24 / SS 47
i110 Birdliege Bow- Physical Dmg 46 | Auto-attack 50.29 | Delay 3.28; Dex 42 / Vit 49 / Crit 44 / Det 22
i115 Diamond Bow- Physical Dmg 48 | Auto-attack 46.08 | Delay 2.88; Dex 45 / Vit 53 /Acc 46 / SS 32