Have we gone too far?

[Moqi]

After I started FFXIV, I picked up Bravely Default (a very Final Fantasy-like game from SE) and was struck by how much time I spent wandering around the overworld! It was somewhat tedious (especially if you weren't excited about the frequent random battles) but also immersive because you actually felt like you were actually going to the Temple of Wind.

There's fast travel in Bravely Default too...

[Avenger]

There's fast travel in Bravely Default too...

I think that's the point - IIRC in spite of things like teleport stones and ships (and airships - it's Final Fantasy!) after you unlock them, you still had to traverse the overworld to get to most of the dungeons (though you could turn off random encounters if you wanted, removing that bit of challenge or irritation...)

[Moqi]

I think that's the point - IIRC in spite of things like teleport stones and ships (and airships - it's Final Fantasy!) after you unlock them, you still had to traverse the overworld to get to most of the dungeons (though you could turn off random encounters if you wanted, removing that bit of challenge or irritation...)

I was thinking more of porting to a random aetheryte and having to walk to wherever you want to vs fast traveling to the continent you want and then flying to the dungeon you want. It's actually even faster in BD since the world map is very small and it only takes a dozen of seconds to travel a continet.

I thought BD was a weird example to bring up since it's got difficulty slider, random encounters slider, auto-attack, one hand button configurations... it's even more catered towards casual play than FFXIV. I mean I hated that game but FFXIV could take a few things from it lol.

[Luvbunny]

Yeah not really understand what are the beefs about this game... Its great that we have four ways of traveling, if you want fast, you pay and teleport, you can manually ride a mount, ride a scripted way via chocobo, or walk it off. The battle here is really really good. It is team jump rope, with some random elements. Yes the move has patterns, but you never know who is going to be targeted next, you don't know where they are going to point out their AOE moves/conal/directional attack. The fights are taxing, but fair, and 90% of the game contents are accessible, heck pretty much all of them are accessible. You may not be able to clear them all, but that's only a minority of contents.

[Gilthas]

While it is true that I was wrong in the way I used the word empathy, it is also true that people that want to make traveling more cumbersome in the game are screwing over everyone else.

Hunts aren't flawed because of fast travel, they're flawed because they're horribly designed. It's ridiculous that you're trying to argue that making hunts less accessible by ruining fast travel would fix them. Hell, it'd probably just lead to more drama with people saying that players should wait longer before pulling the mob.

[Battlewrench]

I think the conversation in this thread is starting to go too far....
Anyway guess it's time to post gifs.

[myahele]

I don't know about support roles, but it would be better if healers (namely WHM) get support abilities besides just healing. Maybe I'm just used to single player games that have healers have support-like abilites

[Meier]

^ Yea I played. Support jobs were my main. COR, BRD, DNC.

In Aion, I played support, same with L2.

Everyone and their mom played the support jobs, IDK what you are talking about lol. I had so many BRD, COR and RDM friends. EVERYONE leveled RDM.

Are we talking about the same game? Did YOU play FFXI?

[Lori]

You solo'd Ampador Keep, Ifrit HM, Titan HM, Garuda HM, Hydra AND Chimera? Jesus tap dancing Christ, you might just be the best player in game right now. If I were you, I'd make a ton of gil carrying 7 people for 500k each.

And you might have a mental issue. You should know exactly what I meant by soloable. And it wasn't the only thing I mentioned in my post either. I mentioned how easy the content was, which the other person had claimed was made more difficult

Please shut up if you're not sure what people are talking about. It was stated directly in my post