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    [To the Developers] Please give us the option to let other players see our head turn.

    I am aware that SE made the "Head turn to camera" feature invisible to other players so that they cannot tell you are trying to take a screenshot and grief you, but as a roleplayer, I'd like the ability to turn my character's head in other ways (stare down, look up, look over my shoulder) and let the other players see it. It adds a lot of personality to the character.

    I'm not saying to remove the option to make this invisible to other players, but I'd like the alternative to make it visible, a toggable option in Character Configuration would be very nice.
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    Problem is even this tiny feature would tax certain systems. Clientside it's fine, but...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    Problem is even this tiny feature would tax certain systems. Clientside it's fine, but...
    Something about PS3...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    I am aware that SE made the "Head turn to camera" feature invisible to other players so that they cannot tell you are trying to take a screenshot and grief you, but as a roleplayer, I'd like the ability to turn my character's head in other ways (stare down, look up, look over my shoulder) and let the other players see it. It adds a lot of personality to the character.
    ...

    That sounds like a ridiculous reason to not have head-to-camera turning visible to other players. Was head-turn-photo-op-griefing/photo-bombing really that much of an issue at some point, or is it just an excuse to keep this feature client-side?

    Anyway, I too would like to be able to share positional information on my character's head, if the griefing excuse is really the only reason it isn't currently being shared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    ...

    That sounds like a ridiculous reason to not have head-to-camera turning visible to other players. Was head-turn-photo-op-griefing/photo-bombing really that much of an issue at some point, or is it just an excuse to keep this feature client-side?

    Anyway, I too would like to be able to share positional information on my character's head, if the griefing excuse is really the only reason it isn't currently being shared.
    I don't know if it's the only reason, but it's the one that Yoshida gave in the live letter :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    ...

    That sounds like a ridiculous reason to not have head-to-camera turning visible to other players. Was head-turn-photo-op-griefing/photo-bombing really that much of an issue at some point, or is it just an excuse to keep this feature client-side?

    Anyway, I too would like to be able to share positional information on my character's head, if the griefing excuse is really the only reason it isn't currently being shared.
    It was probably to keep the feature clientside, since the data that would have to be transmitted would be each and every player in a given area's target. Which would be...lag inducing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    ...

    That sounds like a ridiculous reason to not have head-to-camera turning visible to other players. Was head-turn-photo-op-griefing/photo-bombing really that much of an issue at some point, or is it just an excuse to keep this feature client-side?
    It's more that it's unnecessary overhead for something a minority would use in general play.

    As it stands, the game already sends information about what folks in the vicinity are targeting, so having your client display their characters looking at their target is free of cost for the server. Having to broadcast "character X's head is angled at this yaw/pitch/roll" to everyone in the local area is a whole other thing.
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    Like this ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by LionKing View Post
    Like this ???
    No (not like you can do that in-game anyway). But I'd like players to see where my character's head is turned to, because for roleplay it can change the feel of a scene a lot.

    This is what you see:


    This is what I want you to see:


    We'll never get every changepose for every mood we want to express in-game, and there's so many emotional states that can be showed simply by tilting our head in a certain way, I feel changing how this feature works (or giving us the option to change it) would save in the end a lot of time and character data space that the developers would maybe try to add to give us /changeposes to look defeated, abashed, annoyed, distracted, absent, etc. All stuff that can be emoted simply with a small head turn.
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    I don't know if they'd ever do it but I definitely support the idea. Body language is a very valuable way to tell your story.
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