First ever gay couple NPC's

[Zoralink]

For real, if you don't like it, just move along. Asking people not to shove it in people's faces or acting upset that people care and then subsequently bumping the thread seems counterproductive. Just move along.

My overarching point with all of this was that pointing it out enhances the sense of 'other' to a homosexual person. I get it, it's cool that people are okay with it and all... But that's all that needs to happen. The ideal is people not even noticing it in the first place, it's just something that happens. By pointing it out, it's just... making it a 'thing'. People against homosexual people tend to push back because it's more in their face while people who accept it... already accept it.

See also: Touch and Feel's post on the first page.

[Parodine]

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Pretending like it doesn't matter is all well and great idealism, but that's not the world we live in or will live in perhaps for a very long time. People will push more heavily when supporters are silent, in my experience. People who support it shouldn't feel like they shouldn't talk about it not to step on other people's toes.

If you don't wanna talk about it as a gay guy, it's cool. You're not any less for that. But if I want to talk about it with other supporters, people shouldn't made to feel less than or ashamed for bringing it up. And compared to the plethora of terrible threads on this board, this should be least of people's worries.

[Pinkie_Pie]

-Says something awesome- but can't quote cause its too long, bad forums, bad

WOOT WOOT, yah!

[Zoralink]

Pretending like it doesn't matter is all well and great idealism, but that's not the world we live in or will live in perhaps for a very long time. People will push more heavily when supporters are silent, in my experience. People who support it shouldn't feel like they shouldn't talk about it not to step on other people's toes.

If you don't wanna talk about it as a gay guy, it's cool. You're not any less for that. But if I want to talk about it with other supporters, people shouldn't made to feel less than or ashamed for bringing it up. And compared to the plethora of terrible threads on this board, this should be least of people's worries.

Ha, fair enough, I can respect that view point on it. Don't entirely agree, but to each their own.

Especially the terrible threads part.

[Hito-Shura]

I'm on the side of those who found it to be a nice touch to add an openly gay couple as part of an important quest and not just something secretly in the background.

But I'm surprised the Devs even added them as a couple in the game and even openly as such. I suspect it is the work of our dear Koji Fox at localization who added a little interesting touch to an otherwise bland set of NPCs.

[Welsper59]

I sometimes feel like I'm among the minority that see things like this in a game, movie, etc and don't think anything special about it. As in it's just normal, as is a hetero couple in everyone's eyes. Like "oh ok, they're a couple", just as I did with Edda and her douchey tank fiance.

[NTense]

I think it's just an awkward translation, just because they are a couple doesn't mean they are together, it is probably meant that they are a couple of travelling companions

[KylePearlsand]

Yeah, I say keep this thread open. I'd like to see how the Japanese dialog translates. Maybe we can put this matter to rest once and for all.

[Fenral]

I'd like to see how the Japanese dialog translates.

Much less padded and much more to the point, actually (forgive me for not line-by lining). The male Miqo'te actually flames pretty hard in ways that would be rather difficult (and possibly offensive) to translate literally, so we can consider ourselves blessed that they chose not to.

just because they are a couple doesn't mean they are together, it is probably meant that they are a couple of travelling companions

And... nope, the original script used the English loan-word "couple," which, in spite of it's meanings in English, is only used for romantic couples in Japanese. They aren't a pair, or a duo, they're a couple, in the "we love each other" sense.

But trying to argue the semantics is just silly, since they wouldn't have been run out of town for being "just friends" across racial boundaries. Unless it was Gridania, I guess.

[KylePearlsand]

Much less padded and much more to the point, actually (forgive me for not line-by lining). The male Miqo'te actually flames pretty hard in ways that would be rather difficult (and possibly offensive) to translate literally, so we can consider ourselves blessed that they chose not to.


And... nope, the original script used the English loan-word "couple," which, in spite of it's meanings in English, is only used for romantic couples in Japanese. They aren't a pair, or a duo, they're a couple, in the "we love each other" sense.

But trying to argue the semantics is just silly, since they wouldn't have been run out of town for being "just friends" across racial boundaries. Unless it was Gridania, I guess.

Thanks. I was curious what the Japanese translation was. Glad I don't know now. ^^;