Dear Ninjas

[lvlagmarink]

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You do realise that there's need to be balanced between the 3 whereas it would be called holy trinity.. And it should be balanced to what's the party need at that time, not in a way that other people can use this, when one cant that means that person sux..
However my statements in regard to this topic is that there is no such specific things saying someone need to use x as in the description of a job they are playing.. Heck is i even saved a tank and healer once on BLM because i used psychic in in game content, which i dont think any other BLM would use..

If you read my point, i'm not by all means against people giving advice on getting efficient in playing, but pointing out people to be crap about it is very vague as in people can clear x content anyway and next question would be if "action" is actually needed in the fight or not..

I really have no idea if someone can clear a content happily with minimum effort can be called wrong.. That's being relaxing casual alright..

[FallenArisen0990]

Why is this thread still in existence? No one is going to change for the good or the bad. You guys need to.... "Let it go!"

[Jim_Berry]

In all fairness, if I don't use a Ninjutsu, it's because the lag caught me. Sometimes, it's only enough to throw the Shuriken lol...

Sometimes, my Mudras active like TEN...JIN...CHI... Sometimes it's TEN............CHI lol

[Stupiduglytaru]

During leveling blm most of the join in progresses i got were me main healing due to no healer, obviously if in certain situations you will be required to stop dpsing whether it be crowd control due to over pulling by tank or accidental aggro.
My point about minimum effort is aimmed towards those that just stick to their main 3 move combo stand i.e on a boss if a blm doesn't thunder, ninja doesnt maintain debuffs etc etc
This puts extra strain on the healer and tank, as a dps your job is go hard and burn things down. Some of these comments from people not willing to play a job correctly (maximise dps) are just looking to get carried.
Sure we are well overgeared now for content, but what if this was back when ilvl was lower? these people would never had passed that content

[Elazu]

@Anemone_Valesti: Yes, I get what you're saying, but I don't think the people doing their job should be the ones backing down from the system.

you just dont want to play harder to cover up and babysit the weakness of other players..

And this is the problem. 'I can't be bothered to play well so please carry me through all this content'. And you are defending this mentality by saying that the people who are already doing their job and are not detrimental to the party should do even more to carry the person that simply doesn't want to do his job.

[QiLymePye]

The problem is in the game more so than the people. This game does not leave much customization in how you play. Yes, i can customize my outfit, house, etc. but when it comes to battles, if you are fighting in tough endgame battles, you are stuck just finding the right rotation for each boss fight. There isn't multiple ways to attack a situation in end game. its either "you do it this way or fail". But the problem is the beginning parts of the game, you can make more mistakes and try more things without as much consequence. This game gets super linear the farther you get. So you have new players and young players that like "yay, smash buttons, run around, use random skills" up to lvl 50, then bam!, everything is tighter, no imagination when fighting endgame. Have to fight fights almost in pre-planned, pre-made ways. There is not many ways to beat endgame content. That's the problem.

Now, if they can balance it more, then yeah, this game would have less problems. But you go from very easy to extremely hard with nothing in-between. So these "jobs" where you see alot of people doing stuff you don't agree with, those things worked for them early in the game, now they are not working. And hell, you can go through the game using less than half of the skills you learn up to lvl 50. Then all of a sudden, you have to fit in a skill that was useless to you early on, and you really never used it and don't even know how to incorporate it in your "rotation".

I laugh at this "rotation" bullshit. I should be able to put together my own set of skills to use in situations, not be forced to use certain skills every time. No flexibility, no imagination. That's the problem. Every job damn near feels and operates the same.

[Faelandaea]

The problem is in the game more so than the people. This game does not leave much customization in how you play. Yes, i can customize my outfit, house, etc. but when it comes to battles, if you are fighting in tough endgame battles, you are stuck just finding the right rotation for each boss fight. There isn't multiple ways to attack a situation in end game. its either "you do it this way or fail". But the problem is the beginning parts of the game, you can make more mistakes and try more things without as much consequence. This game gets super linear the farther you get. So you have new players and young players that like "yay, smash buttons, run around, use random skills" up to lvl 50, then bam!, everything is tighter, no imagination when fighting endgame. Have to fight fights almost in pre-planned, pre-made ways. There is not many ways to beat endgame content. That's the problem.

Now, if they can balance it more, then yeah, this game would have less problems. But you go from very easy to extremely hard with nothing in-between. So these "jobs" where you see alot of people doing stuff you don't agree with, those things worked for them early in the game, now they are not working. And hell, you can go through the game using less than half of the skills you learn up to lvl 50. Then all of a sudden, you have to fit in a skill that was useless to you early on, and you really never used it and don't even know how to incorporate it in your "rotation".

I laugh at this "rotation" bullshit. I should be able to put together my own set of skills to use in situations, not be forced to use certain skills every time. No flexibility, no imagination. That's the problem. Every job damn near feels and operates the same.

Yup! pretty much exactly what I said a few posts ago. If it weren't for my absolute love for the other gameplay factors of this game, the inability to customize your rotation would have ran me off long ago. This is the only MMO in existence currently where you can do everything on one character without having to roll a bunch of individual characters and switch to them every time you want to play a different class (and wow does that ever make getting gear, weapons, etc. so much easier). This is the only MMO (that I play, anyway) that allows you to take on ALL crafting without limiting you to 2 or 3 max. And this is one of the few MMO games where a healer can be a dedicated healer (even with the ones out there crying that healers should be DPSing, also). Those factors and a few others have kept me here, but the fact that all of our skill rotations are pre-made for us . . . well . . . it's like a steering wheel under me kilt . . . it's driving me nuts.

[Ruri]

It's official LOLnin replaces LOLdrg in all content.

[Faelandaea]

It's official LOLnin replaces LOLdrg in all content.

That signature is so awesome

[Atreides]

Believe it or not, most people are content with just pushing buttons at random.

That, there is no other explaination why so many people in random groups do abyssal damage, you don't need a parser to see how slow the mobs die compared when you have good DPS with you.
Most of the time it's not even the gear but really people randomly mashing buttons in favor to use the cooler looking skills. (Tri-Disaster spamming summoners....)