Why encounters with a difficulty slope are bad

[Nekodar]

Just want to say that T5 is a very good fight...
One of the main problems with it is that none of the preceding fights actually prepare you for it.
It's also quite unforgiving (get knocked into wall or hit a twister and you're dead)

Two things that would help the people still struggling with it would be 1) no massive damage (essentially instant death) from hitting the wall, and 2) change twisters so they just blow you and others up the air with minor damage instead of certain death.

[Deculture]

Good Design:

T1, T4
Garuda Ex, Shiva Ex, Levi Ex, Mog Ex, Odin
T7, T8

Bad Design:

T2, T6,
Ifrit Ex
Pretty much every fight in FcoB

Horrible Design:

T5, T9

I personally think they wasted some of the best mechanics in the Crystal Tower raids and put whats left over into coil.

I just wish there were more encounters with things to do beside having to focus on your main party role. Healers heal and nothing else, DPS do DPS and nothing else and tanks are useless 50% of the time because most fights don't even need 2 beside the odd provoke in between to share some damage.

[Ihm]

This thread is why casuals need to have their posting privileges taken away.

[Kaiyoko]

Good Design:

T1, T4
Garuda Ex, Shiva Ex, Levi Ex, Mog Ex, Odin
T7, T8

Bad Design:

T2, T6,
Ifrit Ex
Pretty much every fight in FcoB

Horrible Design:

T5, T9

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...nt/category/4/

>> Hasn't completed FCoB
>> Only Completed T5 and T9 1-4 times
>> Never completed a Coil tier in their relevant patches
>> Concludes fights are bad design and the hardcore have no idea what they are talking about

[Mugiawara]

I just want people to stop being bad at Turn 5. It's nearly 2 years and people
still can't get it together...I mean Jesus Christ. I'm scared to see what lies ahead.
Going to be 5.0 still sittin in T9.

[RathSkybreaker]

Pretty sure T9 is the best fight in this game. And I'm not even kidding. It's got the most diverse mechanics in one fight than any other fight in the entire game, and it was really fun to clear in the relevant patch.

[SarcasmMisser]

Saying something is bad design is practically a meme at this point, a dogwhistle whenever someone personally struggles with difficulty but can't take responsibility for it.

[Sapphic]

Saying something is bad design is practically a meme at this point, a dogwhistle whenever someone personally struggles with difficulty but can't take responsibility for it.

Not always, ive cleared everything apart from t13. Some fights I just don't want to run again. eg Levi Ex, ive cleared it multiple times as tank, healer and DPS and I won't do it anymore, nothing to do with difficulty, it's just I don't like the fight. Shiva Ex I got bored of pretty quickly due to it being a pretty repetitive fight and super easy.
Just 2 examples.

Oh and t13, still progressing and loving the fight.

[Krr]

Saying something is bad design is practically a meme at this point, a dogwhistle whenever someone personally struggles with difficulty but can't take responsibility for it.

Remember that time the game's lead producer apologized for T-EX because he didn't realize how unfun it was for players outside of Japan's 5ms ping internet infrastructure until he tried playing the fight on a trip to Australia and got landslid repeatedly?

Yeah, no. Some fights are just crap design.

[lololink]

Remember that time the game's lead producer apologized for T-EX because he didn't realize how unfun it was for players outside of Japan's 5ms ping internet infrastructure until he tried playing the fight on a trip to Australia and got landslid repeatedly?

Yeah, no. Some fights are just crap design.

Did he even said that ? Titan EX is fine and fun, of course if you don't get screwed by your ISP.

you answered half your own question.

Conflag isn't an add, neither are Titan Gaols or am i reading your first sentence wrong? you can also have mechanics like the Captain in Sastasha HM, where he keeps shooting you until you do enough damage to make him stop. not every DPS check has to do with Adds. Heaven's Fall is kind of a DPS check, i've never cleared T9 without skipping the 3rd Heaven's Fall.

it's not super difficult to make things progressively harder for lower DPS groups without a hard enrage. increase the number of Tumults as the fight gets longer. add a 4th and 5th Ifrit to charge across the screen. Shiva already gets damage stacks over time, eventually staff mode will kill you, why do you need a hard enrage in that fight?

Yes Conflag and gaols are adds, they are things you can kill that are summoned by the boss, it's not because they aren't monsters that they aren't adds.
For mechanics like the captain in Sastasha it's indeed a dps check but not only, if you have more healing power you can survive longer and therefor you can do it with less DPS so that's not a true DPS check it's a balance between healing and DPS check, same goes for Shiva gaining power, you can still get through most of these while turtling if there wasn't a hard enrage, think about the T2 enrage mode as the perfect exemple for a turtle strategy that is really gamebreaking.

The point of a hard enrage is to have a DPS check for the whole fight and not only for DPS check phases, so you can create fights with some parts where you don't have to put a DPS check so that if the players die too much they can't win even if they raise a lot.