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    Player
    Morosina's Avatar
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    Morosina Toku
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    Jenova
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    Relic Reborn: Hyrda - double tank or not?

    I have been queuing into the Relic Reborn duties because it's an easy way to get some token. The Hydra one however, is getting stupid. Some people get mad when I am not tanking as well, and some inflated ego tanks get pissed when I am standing up there with them. It's really ridiculous. 8200 hp paladin almost got one shot and got mad at me for trying to "main tank", when clearly I wasn't since I was using Sword Oath, and not Shield Oath. Does his one attack not split damage between tanks?

    So the question is, does it need two tanks or not?
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    Blitz Ace
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    It certainly only needs one tank and i prefer to do it that way. Atleast if the tank is wel geared enough.
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzace View Post
    It certainly only needs one tank and i prefer to do it that way. Atleast if the tank is wel geared enough.
    Well it queues you in with two tanks.

    But yes Triumvirate was meant to be split between two tanks, and soloing it can be rough on the inexperienced, especially if they do not have a wealth of equipment. There really is not a downside to splitting the damage though so it's kind of surprising to hear someone react that way

    i'd honestly just disregard it
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delorean View Post
    There really is not a downside to splitting the damage...
    Two tanks, two times the risk of a tank eating dodgeable conal attacks, healers have more to worry about.

    There really is a downside to splitting the damage... the competency factor.
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    Ellunavi Sevald
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Two tanks, two times the risk of a tank eating dodgeable conal attacks, healers have more to worry about.

    There really is a downside to splitting the damage... the competency factor.
    The competency factor is a factor no matter how you do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Two tanks, two times the risk of a tank eating dodgeable conal attacks, healers have more to worry about.
    well if you want to nitpick, sure. but i was kind of moving forward with the assumption that people weren't playing like they threw their keyboard in the fishtank and told their fish to do stuff for them while they are watching netflix
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    Mykll Valiant
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    Actually, I just (well, a couple of hours ago) ran Hydra, with my ilvl I dunno 118 or 119 about PLD. Another PLD I could tell had dungeon appropriate gear, had his white equipped sword, and with his 3400 about HP he charged up. I let him, and let him stand in front alone. He was never one-shotted. And he did a good job overall. So if a tank with that quality of gear can do it, and the DPS watch their own agro. That swipe attack must be a percentage instead of a fixed amount.
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykll View Post
    and with his 3400 about HP he charged up. I let him, and let him stand in front alone. He was never one-shotted.
    This is a little hard to believe unless Hydra has been completely nerfed. I think it was around 8k damage unmitigated for Triumverate.

    Back when I first did it most tanks had around 4500k. You needed full i70 + food to solo tank it with 6k HP. (Usually Full Darklight + Relic)

    8k - 20% (Shield Oath) = 6400 + SS/Aldo + CD = 4800 Damage usually. which left you 1-2k to not get AA'd etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    This is a little hard to believe unless Hydra has been completely nerfed. I think it was around 8k damage unmitigated for Triumverate.

    Back when I first did it most tanks had around 4500k. You needed full i70 + food to solo tank it with 6k HP. (Usually Full Darklight + Relic)

    8k - 20% (Shield Oath) = 6400 + SS/Aldo + CD = 4800 Damage usually. which left you 1-2k to not get AA'd etc.
    Maybe it has been nerfed or something. I would notice when his health took a big hit, nobody else at the same time took a similar big hit in health, meaning no melee DPS or anyone else was caught in front to share the Triumverate. He tanked it solo, I had to greatly hold back my DPS to not steal enmity, and I would go after the adds. Partly so I can bash something without worrying about enmity, and me being off Hydra gives that tank more time to get ahead of me on enmity.

    If he wanted to charge forth and tank it, I was going to let him. I wasn't going to be "one of those tanks" that just because I had better gear, I HAD to tank. But I made sure to be in enmity position #2 so that IF something did happen, Hydra would come after me and not anyone else.

    That tank finally died when the battle was almost over, about 5% left, and that was more due to the floor AOEs started to be placed in bad positions and such. I was frankly surprised he didn't die sooner.
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    Last edited by Mykll; 02-22-2015 at 02:18 AM. Reason: 1,000 character limit still sucks.

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