Ironworks vs WoD

[CodeCass]

The caster body drops from the final boss chest. Knowing that, you might be able to save yourself time by joining runs in progress instead of doing full runs. Enough people still quit during runs that you shouldn't have long waits.

That's not a bad idea. I hadn't thought of that actually. If I'm reading things correctly so far, the Caster Body is the main thing I'm needing to shoot for too.

So to get the best result, I need to exchange the Demon Skirt of Casting I have in favor of the Ironworks version, keep the Demon Sandals of Casting I have, and shoot for the Demon Robe of Casting from the final boss. Is there any harm in getting filling in the rest with Ironworks, like the head and gloves, or should I be trying for the complete WoD set?

So sorry I'm asking so many questions!

[Werhusky]

I dont know especially the WoD/Ironworks stats for caster gear but my experience from Tanks and Healers is that a Mix is always a good choice to get accuracy/ilvl/substats...

[FranSeara]

OP, try the Body, Hand, Feet and mix in the rest. Pound per Pound you'll come out ahead. Spell Speed is almost worthless on Smn. Don't make the that mistake.
Also, for me I won't be upgrading any Ironworks gear gear, why? Its going to worthless come the Expansion. If you find yourself wanting to try FCOB, go ahead and upgrade. If you dont try FCOB, I'd try getting my weapon upgraded.

[CodeCass]

OP, try the Body, Hand, Feet and mix in the rest. Pound per Pound you'll come out ahead. Spell Speed is almost worthless on Smn. Don't make the that mistake.

Sounds like as good a plan as any! I appreciate the help and I'll start working on this and see how it goes!

[ECHOxLegend]

Hey I just do both, glamour what I like, Wod gives poetics, spam Wod get some gear then buy ironworks accessories, upgrade said accessories with the free carbon coats from the new daily, upgrade what little gloams I have left from what stardusts I get from doing said weekly. ill be max satisfyingly long enough before its obsolete when 3.0 comes out.

[Kietsu]

Did you actually do the calculations? I'm using the most recent stat weights I know of as of 2.4:

Augmented Ironworks chest: 47 crit x .215 = 10.105 INT + 33 spellspeed x 0.098 = 3.234 INT + 5 extra INT from being i130 vs i120 = 18.339 INT.

Demon Robe: 31 crit x .215 = 6.665 INT + 31 det x .284 = 8.804 INT equals a total of 15.469 INT...REALLLLY close to the Augmented Chest, but not "better" by any means, and that's not including the extra VIT you get from upgrading.

However, as i120 vs i120, there's no contest - get the Demon Robe.

This math is really solid - for Black Mage. But OP is asking about Summoner gear here, where Spell Speed is very much ignore-able - DoT ticks aren't affected by SSpd, Egi attacks aren't affected by SSpd, Fester, Rouse, Rouse More aren't on GCD - the only constant damage output effected by SSpd is Ruin, which has a potency of 80.

Mind you, I'm not a Summoner, and the only reason I dabble in it is because I mainly play Scholar, but I do get the feeling SSpd has no value to them.

[Sessurea]

This math is really solid - for Black Mage. But OP is asking about Summoner gear here, where Spell Speed is very much ignore-able - DoT ticks aren't affected by SSpd, Egi attacks aren't affected by SSpd, Fester, Rouse, Rouse More aren't on GCD - the only constant damage output effected by SSpd is Ruin, which has a potency of 80.

Mind you, I'm not a Summoner, and the only reason I dabble in it is because I mainly play Scholar, but I do get the feeling SSpd has no value to them.

Pretty sure that's smn stat weights. Spell speed is actually the strongest secondary stat for blm, valued at just under 0.3 int each, while for smn its under 0.1 int.

[CodeCass]

There's some really great info here! Thanks again everyone!

[Zumi]

No item in WoD is BiS, over a 130 item like augmented ironworks. You lose out on your main stat and vit. The less vit you have the more likely you are to die like on T13 you don't have enough hp you can die to Megaflare, Gigaflare, Rage of Bahamut. When you are dead you do 0 dps so vit is important.

[FranSeara]

Go with the WOD gear, worrying about T13 long before you get there is not going help out with the rest of the game. Spell kills your DPS, you could just buy rings and meld vit on to them, like ALL the every other FCOB player do.