20 item limit per retainer for the Market Board stifles economy

[Geryth]

Now that I finally have a gathering and a crafting class up to 50 I find that I've been much more involved in the Market Board economy. I'm constantly going there to buy materials and to sustain myself I'm constantly farming and selling materials. Lately I've really noticed the restriction of 20 items per retainer on my selling habits and I realized how much healthier the economy would be if that restriction were removed or substantially increased.

For instance, I might grind a material for high quality for something I want/need. I'm left with 150 of normal quality of whatever that material is. I don't have a real need for said item, so I go to sell it on the market board. Whoops! My two retainers are 18/20 at the moment, selling bigger things that I need the gil for. I don't have a need for 150 of said item, I know that not many other people do either. It's a waste of a precious selling slot to sell a manageable say 5-10 of said item which will bring in a negligible amount of gil (compared to other things I'm trying to sell). So I either stick up a stack of 99 and a stack of 51 or I just vendor/trash it. Not healthy for me or for potential buyers.

Now let's swap the situation. I'm a botanist + carpenter so I often need things made by alchemists (waxes and oils and what not). I'm just trying to make a single item, maybe for a simple task like a provision turn-in or leve-quest turn in. It takes 1 item made by another class. I hit up the market board and...the smallest stack of it i can buy is 50. So I either don't buy/craft the item I wanted or I eat the extra cost and try to resell the rest of the stack or vendor/trash it.

The fact is, people don't want to sell small amounts of easily obtainable items because of the 20 item restriction. This is especially problematic when you look at how many crafting professions there are and how many recipes are dependent on the other classes. I don't want to waste my selling slots on fish and mushrooms when I can sell spruce logs and crystal clusters. Whenever I do something simple on my DoW as well like beastman dailies and I get 1-5 of random items like imp wings, instead of breathing them into the economy I just trash them.

If I want to farm 1000 oak lumber and sell them all in neat little stacks of 5, I should be able to, and I think the economy would be much better for it.

[Cuervo78]

I would prefer that you were able to put up a stack of 1000 and I can buy as many as I want, e.g. 6

[SynMaris]

I would prefer that you were able to put up a stack of 1000 and I can buy as many as I want, e.g. 6

Used to be like that back in the day, miss those days, I hate having of buy 99 of something when I only may need like 10 or something.

[Levis]

I would prefer that you were able to put up a stack of 1000 and I can buy as many as I want, e.g. 6

I mentioned this on another thread! and all I was met with was a couple people saying it would destroy the economy :P

I still think this is the single most beneficial thing they could do for the market board right now. So frustrating that you cant buy the amount you need :P

[SynMaris]

I mentioned this on another thread! and all I was met with was a couple people saying it would destroy the economy :P

I still think this is the single most beneficial thing they could do for the market board right now. So frustrating that you cant buy the amount you need :P

I think the economy would be fine, hell it's how it used to be in Market Wards in 1.0

[Ashkendor]

I mentioned this on another thread! and all I was met with was a couple people saying it would destroy the economy :P

I still think this is the single most beneficial thing they could do for the market board right now. So frustrating that you cant buy the amount you need :P

I don't think anyone really said it would destroy the economy. Many people said it would change the economy.

Personally, I'm against it because I (as many other people do) make much of my profit catering to the demand for small quantities of an item. If I list an item in bulk it's because I want to get rid of it in bulk, not have people picking at it and taking what they want at the low bulk price. So, I list in singles or stacks of 3-5 at a higher price to meet the demand for smaller amounts of things like ingots, leather, and lumber. If we were to allow picking from stacks, all that would happen is the price would meet somewhere in the middle. The "bulk discount" would no longer apply. As someone that frequently buys in bulk for crafting purposes, I dislike this as well.

I think the market is fine as it is. If you learn to work with it, it can make you an amazing amount of money. As far as retainer space, I find the 20 item limit to be pretty generous considering you can have 4 retainers. Even with 4, often I have to pick and choose what I'm listing (mostly because I list in small amounts). The rest I put aside for a time when a huge chunk of my supply gets bought out, so that I have something else to list. I try to keep my retainers' market listings as full as possible at all times and I seem to be doing alright by myself.

[Catwho]

That's one reason I plunked down the extra $4/month for two more retainers.

But I've found that since I know my markets well and only list things that are going to sell quickly, I struggle to fully stock all 80 slots. The 20 item limit is only really a problem if you're not moving goods that fast. And I mostly craft gear, not gather things, so it's 1 item per retainer slot.

Those of us who remember FFXI also remember the 7 slots per character, which was a much more crippling limitation.

[SanjuroXI]

They need to put bazaars bavk in game imo.

[Magis]

They need to put bazaars bavk in game imo.

They started to with FC housing being able to put out 3 retainers.

Maybe bazaars or a retainer system may appear for players too. If they added a search tool that could "lightup" players selling what you need, that would be great too.

[Tiggy]

They started to with FC housing being able to put out 3 retainers.

That isn't a bazaar though. It's just items listed from the AH.

That said I agree with sanjuro. Bazaars would be nice. Specifically the retainers you mentioned Magis. I would love them to have a bazaar and for it to have 2 settings. Public or Private. Private would be for FC members only. This would be a great way for us to "sell" items to our FC that we grow in the garden and whatnot. Money can be dumped right into the guild bank directly.